Brilliant Holodeck-like concept from Microsoft for the next gen Xbox?

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Bill Loguidice
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My eyes!

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There were TVs a few years ago that illuminated the wall behind it depending on the color of what was on the screen. I always wanted one.

Yeah, I always liked that idea too. I find a backlight in general helps reduce eyestrain in a dark room. All but my bedroom TV has lighting either behind or above it just for that purpose.

I'd LOVE to see this Illumiroom thing become a thing, but I have a feeling it's not going to be cost effective or well supported...

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I dig it...

There were TVs a few years ago that illuminated the wall behind it depending on the color of what was on the screen. I always wanted one.

This seems like a natural progression of that. It's a neat way to help disguise the environment around your TV. Very immersive.

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much as I post the "how can

much as I post the "how can they?" its a bit disappointing to see its just research (so far). I have been a supporter of the over the top stuff and been burned so much i kinda quit, and now it really sounds like the big dreams of the past are catching up with tech and some functional stuff is just on the horizion.. The Oculus Rift, i have 3 sets of VR glasses (all are worthless crap) that i spent around $1500 (all 3 total),I bought into the ASUS 3D stuff way back in the early 90's (worked quite well, but headache city after about 15 minutes made it worthless too). This appears to be close to a working functional addition to the gaming experience. I am really hyped on the Rift.. as i say being burned hard on some fairly expensive hardware has tempered my lust for the stuff. I,m a victim of jumping on a bandwagon before its time, and now tech is getting close to some very cool gadgets and my past is hunting me and keeping me from jumping in again.

I think this would really enhance FPS.. Some of the superhero games where you climb walls and such.. wow.. having the city around you instead of in front of you would massively improve those games, well all games.. the more I thought the more I wanted.. and of course.. no set date now :) teach me to talk about downsides.. karma..

I played with the Bedsheet projector thing for awhile (got the idea from a PC company that was doing a ball shaped screen and 3 projectors behind it) when you could mess with POV in quake.. you can take a thin white bed sheet and some fishing line and make a U shape (think one flat screen and one on each side with ends tilted towards you).. (sorry no pictures) and put the projector so it shines into it.. you reverse the picture, it will shine right through and look fine on other side.. and if you sit close and warp the sheet slightly around you.. it was dang cool.. very crude but cool (it took way to much room was problem) racing games that you could adjust POV where really cool (not many). Some issues withteh angled sheets stretching the view but as it was just outside your main view range wasn't to noticeable.. it did look like tree's rushing by.

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I agree, Clok, that it's

I agree, Clok, that it's probably too early for this to be regular consumer tech, but you can see how it can work RIGHT NOW, much like the Oculus Rift. The other thing is like the Oculus Rift, it's not a replacement for what we're doing now, but an optional enhancement, much like 3D games, where you can choose to enable the feature or not. Also, just like with the first version of the Kinect, it's sometimes best to get an early version out and see how well it can utilized (the promise) before unleashing a new generation or two. In that case, presumably the next Xbox will come with the rumored improved Kinect (sensitivity, speed, low light performance, etc.) by default, so we can certainly see how that might play out.

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saw this way back in Dec on

saw this way back in Dec on Anandtech.. couple of video game sites who got to play the demo (gears of war and HALO i believe) at some trade show said it was distracting once past the "wow" factor .. back in Jan on Youtube.

I see the video is in the same room.

the big downside is graphics , the engine either has to upscale to much larger picture size (more video memory, more texture throughput etc, that the console will struggle with it on photo realistic graphics) or it has to down sample everything (personally for most games with fast action, who cares if i can see a crack in a window, best option) down, or reduce the actual screen 1920x1080 to 640X480 on screen and the rest in background. big compromises to pump that much textures out.. one fix (as seen in the video) is to just black and white it.. it works.. but.. This is alot like the Samsung TV's that had the mini projectors in edges, you put it on wall and had another 2 feet of screen stretched over it.. they never did make more then a few then then switched to those TV's that in a green scene put green lights around it (cant imagine those protectors where cheap). Another problem is placement.. it has a blank spot on screen where TV goes, it doesn't project anything there.. so where is sits is a huge deal, I understand it can be sized in software some. Alos lighting issues, most high end projectors that can work in some light are $1000+, my guess this is a low lum one that will not work in lighted rooms.. again, not a huge deal for a nerd like me who can tune out most light, but the average gamer .. also it wont work with dark walls (note all videos are light colored walls and furniture.. just so many things to worry about.. but who knows it might be the next big thing. I do like the idea. there is simply no way not to see how cool this is.. I love the explosion "waves' effect.. like water on the walls... Somebody in one of the forums mentioned Nintendo showed something like this withe Wii (before the Wii was launched) and linked to it.. but i cant find the link now.

I like it, but i cant see a $400 (and i really doubt it will be that cheap, but if the always on DRM thing turns to bunk.. and its $400ish, I am IN!!!!.) addon is worth it.. Rift headset is a much more practical way to get same result (and more people will be programming for it) and it will work on more stuff then the xbox ( but you will need one for each user, this projector one HUGE PLUS for something like this, everybody can see it. (and more people will be programming for it). So bill if write a book for it . do you get to write that stuff off as research :) dang cool if you can.

weird side note.. anandtech forums on consoles.. official ps4 thread started 4 months ago, 40,000 posts, official xbox (next one) thread started 3 months ago 4,000 posts. MS doenst seem to be getting much hype going this round.. or is the PS fanboys just are?

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