3 different places (stream) for comment same yours videos = waste of time for me..

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ruthan
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I everytime strugle with idea, that invest time in some internet disscusion is waste of time, because this disscussio will be forgetten, roll out in end of list of forgotten past.

Here it is even worse, because with new video, we have usauly this setup, these streams:
1) Armchar arcade news post / homepage - this post roll out very quickly to second pages, which almost nobody opens
2) youtube video comments - there are usualy more comments than on armchar arcade
3) Armchair forum - matt chat topic discussion.

My suggestion is:
- disable Youtube comment and add link on armchair arcade, what is possible and your pageview will be increased
- disable comments on new pages and with new new post automaticly generated forum topic and automaticly add link to it

Result:
1 communication stream, world will a bit better.

Who: Brujah Zealot, the pimp of babylons bitch. / Location: Scorched heart of Europe. // Sorry for my moldavian sort of english, i have 2 possibilities, to be silent or try to say something +look like idiot..

ruthan
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Ok, im going to ZZZ (read only) state.

Who: Brujah Zealot, the pimp of babylons bitch. / Location: Scorched heart of Europe. // Sorry for my moldavian sort of english, i have 2 possibilities, to be silent or try to say something +look like idiot..

ruthan
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Hmm, very long disscussion. I simply pointed what is wrong and how to fix it, so i could be called constructive critism.. If it is not good enough for you, ok i can good away. m here because Matt in past wrore nice book and I greedily want more .

My goal was better dissussion, without zillions forum / new post / you tube links, which are i most of cases people lazy to add, so disscussion is more flat and limited, than could be.

Yes we could disscuss Negative, Possite impact of such change. How to solve it, I sketched (if you need more i could try dig deeply into Drupal which im using for few my sites), but for this we need some arguments.

If you are particulary interest in my person and want to know what kind of person Im, we could met on Skype.

Who: Brujah Zealot, the pimp of babylons bitch. / Location: Scorched heart of Europe. // Sorry for my moldavian sort of english, i have 2 possibilities, to be silent or try to say something +look like idiot..

Matt Barton
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Rule #1 of Dale Carnegie's

Rule #1 of Dale Carnegie's book How to Win Friends and Influence People:

Never complain, criticize, or condemn.

I have found this to be 100% true, though I sometimes find myself slipping into complaining or even condemning something. If you really want to change someone's behavior, you'll do it much better if the person trusts, respects, and likes you because you're a Good Person. If you come across as arrogant, negative, bitter, jaded, cynical, etc., people may nod along but will probably be thinking--man, I don't want to be like that guy. He's always frowning and going on about how much he hates something!

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Mark Vergeer
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Giving constructive feedback is not a natural thing

Giving constructive feedback is not an easy thing to do for all. A tip for getting ones point across in a more pleasing and acceptable way is by sandwiching the negative/improvements between some good points as well.

(Positive points)
(Negative points)
(solutions)
(positive points)

This way people won't get rubbed the wrong way. When there is a language barrier and perhaps a not as fluent command of the English language subtleties and especially forms of politeness can be lost. Some languages can be very blunt and up front compared to English so a non native can come across differently or more harsh than intended. In some cultures, actually especially the Anglosaxan cultures, being polite in some form is actually quite important. I know for example the Dutch can come across very blunt and unpolite to the English when it is not intended. I have learned to take some extra care and adhere to English etiquette when I am there with the UK family or friends. Same goes for France and Germany compared to the Netherlands really.

Okay here it goes,
Ruthan, You are obviously a bright and intelligent person and what you have to say is obviously very interesting and original. But by the somewhat confrontational manner in which you post Ruthan I wonder if it is just a language barrier, cultural thing or that you are more of an instigator.
Calling something 'a waste of time' basically means you think something is like trash / waste for you. Not once but trice. There are a lot of video responses and videos on this site made by the people who created the site in the first place. You come by and say that what they do is like trash to you, a rather bold statement. What type of response do you expect back? A Kind thank you? A confrontation? A hate thread? not sure really.
Would it be possible for you to check into this? I would hate to see it if you rub more people the wrong way. I do in some way like that you are thinking along different tracks and would love to discuss things more.
If you do propose change or think something isn't right for the way you like it, do take into account how you could say this in a manner that is acceptable and actually understood. It may help to consider the other side of the coin as well. The world consists of more than right and wrong, black, white. It actually is shades of grey and a kazillion colors. And if this is just who you are and how you conduct yourself - kinda wearing your heart and your opinion on your sleeve - you've probably encountered more situations where communication went sour after a while. It helps when people get to know you. Hey there's nothing wrong with how and who you are but there may be some communication issues arising in the future.

I am of course only speaking for myself and people may or may not agree with me. I care enough to give this type of feedback.

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Rob Daviau
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Well...

It's not all about you RUTHAN despite what you seem to think. If it is a waste of your time than simply don't bother with it.

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clok1966
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i think the problem today

i think the problem today with the net is you need ex-poser.. there is just far to much content and if you limit yourself at all you risk losing your readers. Catch -22. you have the people who discuss rationally (Bill /matt ..heck most the regular people here) and then you have me.. bit grumpy and stuck in my ways and biased on many subjects.. you have to take the good with the bad. I don't think there is a perfect way of doing it.. and sadly most the people who discuss civil have left the building, Im glad Bill and co have stuck around.. I'm sure they at times roll their eyesat many of my comments.

you have interesting ideas, but sad as it sounds, once you make um click through to another page a requriment i think it will in the end do more harm then good. Yes it may bring the more dedicated people to the forums, but it will lose many.. and even us crazy people are needed, we make the sane ones look good :)

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