Playstation 4 is PC in fancy box, like original Xbox long time ago

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ruthan's picture
Joined: 01/22/2012

HW specs:

Main Processor
Single-chip custom processor
CPU : x86-64 AMD "Jaguar", 8 cores
GPU : 1.84 TFLOPS, AMD next-generation Radeon based graphics engine


Hard Disk Drive
Built-in / HDD

Optical Drive (read only)

Super-Speed USB (USB 3.0) ?AUX
Communication Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T)
IEEE 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth® 2.1 (EDR)

AV output
Analog-AV out
Digital Output (optical)

My ideas:
- PC in fancy shoebox, same as was planed for Steambox, any part of architecture isnt cumbersome like was Cell nvidia GPU with embeded super speed ram
- developement / porting for such hardware very easy in comparision with present (de)generation / also backporting to PC is easy
- it will be not compatible with Playstation 3, without next chip (maybe premium models)
- Wii U is will die in big pains- will remain alone, with akward PowerPC architecture in market, already lost hacdcore audience
- 8 GB memory, big open world game without loading are now feasible. GDDR5 is good bonus
- performance an level of quad core Core i5 is good enough for 2,3 years, after it could be problem
- GPU is problem, because GPU is on same die shrink as CPU, couldnt be powerfall, in expeticting something like Radeo 7770 performance i would be pretty bad.. now, but after X years in would be horrible bottleneck. You can optimilise, but it cost big money and after 3 years, normal PCs will be again 4-5x times faster
- physical distribution is still possible
- storage i hoped for SSD, HDD is again problem for future, loading time will be huge i compartion with PC
- regarding this is x86 i thing that will be rooted very quickly..

This facts are good for developers, are good for consumers, but i think bad for Sony (which doesnt matters for me), because they simple dont delivered nothing special, they cant no longer to hide behind magic, special, cumbersome architecture.. but everyone will know, that, they give to us PC, with gamepad, nothing special. They cant no longer lie about complexity / impossibility of porting, about Linux experience.
Im curios of price, it could be (after root) good gaming pc for better price, but because Sony is big corporation, i dont believe in very good price, price will be probably $400 and same pc hardware (except Jaguar CPU) you could already buy for roughly sime money.

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Bill Loguidice
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Joined: 12/31/1969
While yes it does have mostly

While yes it does have mostly off-the-shelf PC components, it's big technical (i.e., not services or features) "innovation" is its unified memory. It can use its 8GB in any way needed and at full speed/bandwidth. That's a pretty big deal and could be a differentiating factor for years to come.

Also, at this point, you can build a similar PC (sans the unifying OS/architecture) for around $700, but obviously by the time this comes out later this year, those component prices will have dropped (and certainly Sony will be getting high discounts on components due to the volume). However you slice it, there's a good deal of hardware in there...

Joined: 01/21/2009
Dont think its quit that

Dont think its quit that simple.. But its fair to say its a PC knock off.. Consoles have been fancy PC for a long time.. with one big difference.. the CPU could be designed to work with textures and such a bit easier then a strict CPU. CPU speed is to a point now being fancy (like for instance the old AMIGA and custom chips) isn't required.. It more about memory and texures and standard CPU. PC libraries for handling textures and such are so good now.. (arguably better then some consoles). The other reason consoles had custom chips was price.. back in the Xbox days the Intel 700 thats in it cost about $80.. current CPU's for PC where $400.. Now while AMD is behind Intel in pure speed.. a Pretty good AMD chip can be had for $100.. way different then the past.. why rewrite the wheel.. Consoles have pretty much been about 5 years behind speed wise the last few generations.. (almost 10 now at the end of there life cycle).. this will put the PS4 almost on par with the "average" PC user when it hits.. CPU speed on par, memory at 8 will be on par.. Memory speed too as the speed is on the CPU now. its just different now.. PC prices on hardware and such are so cheap.. and when you consider TV resolutions you dont need anything but a $50 video card.. heck its almost silly to go with special hardware that devs have to learn all over again ( sony has learned this time and time again). The CELL was an amazing piece of hardware.. even if it didnt pan into awesome games.. But right now a $200 PC can pretty much do anything the 360 and PS3 can.. when they came out, no.. but again prices have dropped so much.. that AMD chip while not cutting edge, will be pretty much on par with "current average" pc at christmas next year.

personally I think Sony see's the writing on the wall.. years of dev time and such for custom hardware when off the shelf can do the same is silly.

Mark Vergeer
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Joined: 01/16/2006

PC in a fancy shoebox! yeah!


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