The Hobbit

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Matt Barton
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Have you guys seen The Hobbit yet? I went to see it on Friday.

I think Baradinelli gets it pretty much right. Great movie for all fans of the book (and especially those who understand it's NOT LOTR), but others will probably get bored during the first hour or two. While I personally loved it, I see why some people would find it dull and self-indulgent. I'm the kind of nerd who was ready to scream "IT'S STING!!!", for example, and saw what Jackson was doing during that sequence. That all went over the heads of anyone who didn't read the book.

Martin Freeman makes a wonderful hobbit! Indeed, I can't imagine anyone else in the role of Bilbo.

I think one area where Jackson fails here, though, is the sense of wonder and adventure at the beginning. He's perhaps a bit too focused on showing how little interest Bilbo has in the adventure, and makes the dwarves a bit too serious--focused on reclaiming their homeland rather than just out to have fun and get rich. A few references are made to Bilbo's books, so that might be a way to show that he IS interested in faraway places and such, just hasn't had the means and wherewithal to do it before.

Still, there are some really powerful moments. I think my favorite is when Bilbo gets hugged (if you've seen it, you probably know what I'm talking about). The movie all came together nicely at that point. I also liked the idea that Gandalf chose Bilbo to give himself courage. Perhaps that was implied in the books, but I always just had the idea that Gandalf just liked to be mischievous sometimes.

Thank God this isn't Lucas, though. I think the first thing he'd do is replace all the hobbits and dwarves with small, irritating children.

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Rob Daviau
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Well..

My wife and I saw it and loved it from beginning to end, it was what we expected, no complaints, maybe I am just happy having a wife who loves this stuff lol. we never read the Hobbit or LOTR books so maybe we had no expectations but we loved it enough we will go see it again.

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LOVED The Frighteners!

Good call Clok. I don't know how much Jackson's earlier stuff gets watched, so I can't really comment there. I personally wasn't impressed with "Brain Dead", which is the only one of his shock/schlock films I've seen. But The Frighteners is a terrific film, just entertaining as heck. If anyone here hasn't seen it, PLEASE do yourself a favor and track down a copy on Netflix or elsewhere.

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The Hobbit extended edition

I liked the Hobbit, but I agree that if you're not a geek for the books or earlier movies it does move slowly for the first half or so. Compared to the movies in the LoTR trilogy, this feels like an extended version.

clok1966 wrote:

As for the movies... I'm a bit worried about jackson.. I honestly think he is one of the most creative guys, but unless he is working with fantasy it seems his works are pretty much ignored..(king kong/Frighteneres both excellent movies, both pretty much forgotten).

I tried watching King Kong, but it was also painfully slow at the start. When the pace finally starting picking up on the island one of the characters knocked a raptor down by punching it in the head. At that point I gave up and went to sleep.

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Matt Barton
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I think it's definitely safe

I think it's definitely safe to say it's very slow (I think "plodding" is a bit harsh) for the first couple hours. If you're not already in love with Middle Earth, you will probably get bored and want to get up and stretch. I say, why fight it? Go get some popcorn and a coke and come back. There's no reason to sit there trying to focus if you don't feel it.

The last hour is definitely worth watching and I doubt anyone would get bored during it.

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Saw it - enjoyed it

Saw it - enjoyed it immensely.

Was a bit slow to start but then so is the book. The goblin domain sequence is quite brilliant.

Being from N.Ireland James Nesbitt and his Oirish charm thing grated a bit with me - but maybe that's because I know him in many other things and to be fair he doesn't try and change his accent which is no bad thing.

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I was never a fan of the

I was never a fan of the books.. (minority, I know) I always felt Tolkien could describe a apple in such a way you could almost taste it.. but there was his problem.. instead of a feast, he would concentration on that apple. He has an amazing way with detail.. but I always felt the story was painted with much to broad strokes when he uses so much detail in the little things.. Part of it is I'm sure I read to many books that stole/borrowed from him long before I read his.. so his seem so generic and they where the original..

As for the movies... I'm a bit worried about jackson.. I honestly think he is one of the most creative guys, but unless he is working with fantasy it seems his works are pretty much ignored..(king kong/Frighteneres both excellent movies, both pretty much forgotten). I think that is why he did the Hobbit, like returning to his greatest triumph and savoring it a bit again... He has made some fantastic movies. Lonely Bones, Heavenly Creatures are pretty good stuff.. but I much prefer his over th e top stuff.. AND think Frighteners is one of my favorite movies. And it has one of the best covers of "don't fear the reaper" ever..

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We had the good fortune of

We had the good fortune of seeing it in 2d and at 24 FPS. I would like to see it in 48 honestly - most of the action sets were directed with that in mind. Also as gamers, we're going to be more used to the high framerates than the average person - our games usually land anywhere between 30 and 60 fps.

At the end of the day I feel the movie was made by nerds for nerds. I read all the reviews, and I was sitting in the theater waiting for it to become boring. Once the "fellowship" leaves Bilbo's house, it moves at a pretty fast clip from one set-piece to the next. The Bilbo's house stuff was my favorite in the movie - well acted and exactly how I pictured it. And, PJ didn't wimp out and cut the singing parts.

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Interesting, BitWraith. I've

Interesting, BitWraith. I've heard almost universally that it's slow and plodding, so it's good to hear that you loved it. My wife and I (more my wife, honestly) wanted to see it, but almost certainly will have to wait until it comes home. I was most interested in the 48FPS 3D experience myself...

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I loved the movie - I was

I loved the movie - I was riveted to the screen the entire time. Honestly, I leaned over to my friends after it was over and asked "What movie were the critics watching?"

What movie indeed - Return of the King (my favorite of the LOTR trilogy) got across the board praise and many oscars. I watched it this Sunday since I'm in a Tolkien space again. Talk about a long movie - in between distractions and phone calls, it took most of the day to get through that movie.

I found the Hobbit to be more focused, and more consistent looking. I thought the pacing was fine.

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