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Matt Barton wrote:

There's a boardgame called Settlers of Cataan that I've been wanting to try forever. Unfortunately, outside of Magic the Gathering, I've had little opportunities to play boardgames with anybody.

You should try Cataan on Xbox Live Arcade. It's highly regarded and has a reasonable population to play against. There are other, similarly "deluxe" board game interpretations on Xbox Live Arcade that are quite good.

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clok1966 wrote:

its funny, all this talk of board games..... I know i havent played one in close to 20 year (the type we are talking about). I can remeber the marthon sessions of Star Fleet Battles, Warhammer, mech Warrior.. its so strange most of those are thought of as vdieo games now, not board games. Heck even the AD&D days.. GURPS. In collage we played this for about 3 years staight
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_Adventures_(role-playing_game)

we had a polar bear squad who arch enemies where Owls :) I really need to embarass myself by digging some old drawing out and scanning um in for you guys to laugh at :) I still have ALL my old roleplaying books, folders and folders of hand drawn stuff...

just saying polar bear squad at my age makes me grin :)

It sounds like we played many of the same games. I too played most of the TSR games, TMNT (based on the original adult B&W comics), Star Fleet Battles, Doctor Who, Star Trek, Illuminati, GURPS, etc. A really large variety. It helps to have had similarly minded geek friends from approximately fourth grade through to high school, then for a short time with different groups both during and post college. I haven't done a pen and paper RPG in a group since I was 23, though, and I'm going on 40 this year, so there you go...

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There's a boardgame called

There's a boardgame called Settlers of Cataan that I've been wanting to try forever. Unfortunately, outside of Magic the Gathering, I've had little opportunities to play boardgames with anybody.

The only boardgames I played growing up were Monopoly, Pop-o-matic Trouble, Clue, and a little bit (not enough!) of Risk. Oh, and of course Operation.

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its funny, all this talk of

its funny, all this talk of board games..... I know i havent played one in close to 20 year (the type we are talking about). I can remeber the marthon sessions of Star Fleet Battles, Warhammer, mech Warrior.. its so strange most of those are thought of as vdieo games now, not board games. Heck even the AD&D days.. GURPS. In collage we played this for about 3 years staight
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_Adventures_(role-playing_game)

we had a polar bear squad who arch enemies where Owls :) I really need to embarass myself by digging some old drawing out and scanning um in for you guys to laugh at :) I still have ALL my old roleplaying books, folders and folders of hand drawn stuff...

just saying polar bear squad at my age makes me grin :)

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Matt Barton wrote:

That's accurate. I remember emailing them when writing D&D to ask about it. The response was that the company wanted to distance itself from "that buggy piece of crap" as much as possible.

Yes, I remember when you uncovered that. For the life of me, I don't recall any game stopping bugs in any of the versions or any related broohaha such bugs would bring, though some versions definitely performed better than others.

Steve Jackson is an interesting character, providing inspired competition for the Avalon Hills and TSR's of the world in the 80's, but it seems like he has steadfastly stuck to his even-more-niche-today bread and butter.

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Steve Jackson
Bill Loguidice wrote:

Don't get me wrong, AutoDuel was great in spite of itself. I beat the C-64 version, which was a poor 1:1 port of the Apple II original, weak graphics and sound and slippery control and all, but the core game itself was so great, it didn't matter. Sadly, it's my understanding Steve Jackson is not a fan, and it seems like he doesn't like this whole computer business anyway, so who knows if he'll ever license again...

"Car Wars" as a concept has been done time and again on computers, but in my opinion, never properly as a CRPG like AutoDuel achieved.

That's accurate. I remember emailing them when writing D&D to ask about it. The response was that the company wanted to distance itself from "that buggy piece of crap" as much as possible.

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Car Wars
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Autoduel... as in computer remake? I have not invested in kickstarter but that might be one i can get into.. that would be so hard to translate well.. part of the charm of that game was how 'slow" it played... I had toyed with trying to mod some top down race games in Gamemaker to do a Autodual type game at one time.. but the smooth/fast action of modern stuff doesnt translate to what made that game fun. I'm sure it can be done.. ..dang tht one has me interested (if its video game).

No, Car Wars, the original pen and paper version, which is what Steve Jackson will likely kickstart like he did with Ogre. It would be awesome to have AutoDuel (the computer version of pen and paper Car Wars) remade, but as you say, it wouldn't be done right. We'd likely have a third or first person monstrosity, when the original way of doing it - top-down - which allowed it to stay faithful to the source material, is probably ideal.

Don't get me wrong, AutoDuel was great in spite of itself. I beat the C-64 version, which was a poor 1:1 port of the Apple II original, weak graphics and sound and slippery control and all, but the core game itself was so great, it didn't matter. Sadly, it's my understanding Steve Jackson is not a fan, and it seems like he doesn't like this whole computer business anyway, so who knows if he'll ever license again...

"Car Wars" as a concept has been done time and again on computers, but in my opinion, never properly as a CRPG like AutoDuel achieved.

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yes Ogre (board game) has a

yes Ogre (board game) has a way to play solo.. i cant honeslty remeber if it was just fan made up or part of the game though... the late 70's, early 80's are a long time ago!

Autoduel... as in computer remake? I have not invested in kickstarter but that might be one i can get into.. that would be so hard to translate well.. part of the charm of that game was how 'slow" it played... I had toyed with trying to mod some top down race games in Gamemaker to do a Autodual type game at one time.. but the smooth/fast action of modern stuff doesnt translate to what made that game fun. I'm sure it can be done.. ..dang tht one has me interested (if its video game).

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Car Wars/AutoDuel

Ugh, I'm wavering back and forth here about pulling the trigger. I'm terrible. [ha, just noticed it funded four days ago, so I can't get in on it anyway - whew!) Anyway, the good news in that Ogre kickstarter is that since they made close to $1 million, Steve Jackson will be working on a Car Wars Kickstarter. Fans of the original Car Wars (I enjoyed it a great deal) and AutoDuel fans (me too!) should be happy assuming they can pull that together properly as well.

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So close to wanting this...
Paul H wrote:

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/798736/please-help-me-find-the-official-solo-rules

It looks like you might have to buy a magazine reprint to get them, but they do seem to exist.

Based on that link, it looks like this is one of the better ways to solo: http://www.sjgames.com/ogre/articles/uncertain.html , plus you can buy The Ogre Book, Second Edition for $13.99 in PDF format: http://sjgames.com/ogre/products/ogrebook/

I think I'll begrudgingly stick with the classic computer version...

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