Brian Fargo Doing Wasteland 2 with Crowdsource Funding!

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Wasteland II!Wasteland II!This just in from Brian Fargo: "I thought you all might be interested to know we are seriously looking at bringing a new Wasteland back with crowdsource funding. If we get enough support it could finally happen. Nothing would make me happier."

This of course, follows in the wake of Doube Fine's success raising money to produce a new game in the style of the classic click-and-point adventures (Secret of Monkey Island, Day of the Tentacle, etc.") Well, thanks to good ol' Brian Fargo, the many fans of Wasteland might get to experience the same thrills!

Imagine it: A core group of CRPG experts making a CRPG the way THEY want to make it, with no clumsy, stupid interference from PUBLISHERS and their armies of clipboard-wielding nincompoops.

For you young pups, Wasteland is a 1988 classic that inspired the Fallout series. Fargo was part of the original team. I've always thought of it as a post-apocalyptic Bard's Tale. It's widely celebrated for its amazing atmosphere and fun gameplay, and of course the box and manual are true collector's items (not the made-to-be-collectible junk we get in "special editions").

As soon as I learn more, I'll pass the news along.

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Anonymous (not verified)
>If we get enough support it

>If we get enough support it could finally happen. Nothing would make me happier."
Great. Now how I do show support? I kid, I kid. Eagerly awaiting news though. I would be more than happy to make donation via Kick Starter to mister Fargo.

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I'm not sure what to think.

I'm not sure what to think. Wasteland was good, if not great, and yes it was the grand daddy of fallout. The problem is ... Wasteland=ultima 1 to 5, Fallout=Ultima 6 to 8 at the very least graphic wise.... And that is there charm.. Wasteland already had Part 2 and 3 and for those of us in the modern age 4 and 5 (in the form of fallout3 and Vagas)... they where just called Fallout. These games have evolved.. rolling back to the past will make some happy but simply wont be commercially succesfull (opinion only).

I want to see a reason for Wasteland II , again fallout and Fallout 2 where EXCELLENT steps ... for the wasteland series.. as everybody knows they are Wasteland in all but name. There is alot of talk it isnt.. and im sure all involved will keep saying it (with the lawsuits flying right now with the fallout name any smart man would) but many refrences are in both games... and since "OFFICALLY" fallout is in a differnt alternative time.. ....how do all these littel things pop up? Fat freddy (and it more then the name for all us who played both), desert rangers (which are even in the new fallout games), and many of the same combat messages. All this was simply becuase they couldnt obtain the licence from Interplay.. it even goes farther it was going to then be licened with a Steve Jackson tie in ( any of the old school know Gurps) which also fell through.. And there is the REAL wasteland II- Fountain of Dreams (which is a whole story in itslef).

Dont get me wrong.. a great game is always worth the time. I dont want to sound negative (to late?) But Brians track record in the last while is fine by me.. not many of the old school will enjoy his take on the classics today.. from my understanding he has owned the rights to Wasteland since early 2002 or 3. While i quite liked his BardsTale remake for the xbox/PC in 2004ish? adn really his only other atempt at RPG type stuff is Hunted.. again One i enjoyed but not many of the old school did.

I must admit thinking about it gets my "deep" rpg juice going.. We hvfe had our SLOGS, and such.. I just played to dang many games in the past.. I never seem to find one i havent played before...

Only time will tell...

Anonymous (not verified)
As long as they aren't going

As long as they aren't going to make yet another FPS clone, like all the other FPS clones, those PlayStation and X-Bawks hipsters like.

Give us the full old school experience and no compromises for hipsters:

Turn based, C&C, hard box, maps and manuals, just like they used to make in the old days.

The kids playing the shallow stuff today, have absolutely no clue, what they are missing.

Tom S. (not verified)
While I would love to see

While I would love to see Wasteland remade or receive an official sequel, I can’t help but think it will end up like the latest Bard’s Tale. Wasteland is one of my favorite games and one of my most distinct memories C64 gaming and childhood. Right along with Gold Box AD&D games, though that was later. Wasteland was always the school break/summer vacation game, I would watch my older brother playing while I read the journal entries, took notes, and mapped areas.

As mentioned above Wasteland already lives on in its spiritual successor the Fallout franchise, I actually love all of them. However we can’t leave out Fountain of Dreams, which seemed to reuse the Wasteland game engine. FoD took a lot of criticism from the Wasteland faithful but I played it quite a lot and really enjoy it. FoD added many interesting features such as your characters suffering mutations which altered their stats with penalties and sometimes added bonus abilities. I whole heartedly recommend any Wasteland fan who has not given FoD a chance to do so.

Tom S. (not verified)
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Tom S. wrote:

While I would love to see Wasteland remade or receive an official sequel, I can’t help but think it will end up like the latest Bard’s Tale.

Sorry I had a typo in there. I meant to say that I can't help but think a new Wasteland would end up like the latest Bard's Tale; which to me is a mostly bad thing.

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Tom S. wrote:
Tom S. wrote:

While I would love to see Wasteland remade or receive an official sequel, I can’t help but think it will end up like the latest Bard’s Tale.

Sorry I had a typo in there. I meant to say that I can't help but think a new Wasteland would end up like the latest Bard's Tale; which to me is a mostly bad thing.

I actually didn't mind the angle the last Bard's Tale game took--after all, the genre is ripe for parody and at the time action RPGs were still hot commodities, and are of course a great deal of fun when done right. However, I think the main issue was was that it was presented almost as a reboot of sorts rather than an offshoot, i.e., it desperately needed a sub-title. I think it would have went down better that way. The other issue of course was was that was the ONLY Bard's Tale we got since the original series, which make the lack of direct authenticity stand out even more.

Certainly I would think that just like the Doublefine guys and their funding for a traditional point and click game, if this was successfully crowdsourced, it would HAVE to be a modernized "authentic" sequel because that's what people would be paying for, so I don't think we have much to worry about. Frankly, I'd like to see some other legends do the same thing, like Richard Garriott. Basically take one last stab at updating their most successful classics with a modern day sequel, but keep it faithful. I think that would be the perfect thank you for fans.

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I'm sorry to say I missed

I'm sorry to say I missed Wasteland when it was new; strange that I would have missed it considering how much I played Bard's Tale. I remember one of my friends in college was a big fan of it and would often play it in the computer lab.

I'd be very surprised if they stuck to the original formula. Like Tom and A., I feel the temptation to make it into an FPS hybrid will be too hard to resist. I hope to God we're not looking at another game like Fallout 3 or Dragon Age 2. I'd love to see a return to form, but they'd basically be flipping the bird to all the "modern CRPG fans" who think everything has to be reduced to an action game. I was hoping Skyrim would flop, but of course all that emphasis on action and audiovisuals pays off with Joe Gamer, and when designers see that, they rush in to imitate.

I'll be curious to see if the crowdfunding aspect has any influence on the design. If people donate thinking they'll get something like the original Wasteland, and end up with another Fallout 3, I think there'd be hell to pay. I don't know why a fan of the original Wasteland would *want* to see it end up as yet another FPS hybrid...I mean, what's the point? If I donated to this, it'd be because I want to see the original gameplay updated with a new interface and audiovisuals, but with the gameplay mostly intact.

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Matt Barton wrote:

I'm sorry to say I missed Wasteland when it was new; strange that I would have missed it considering how much I played Bard's Tale. I remember one of my friends in college was a big fan of it and would often play it in the computer lab.

I'd be very surprised if they stuck to the original formula. Like Tom and A., I feel the temptation to make it into an FPS hybrid will be too hard to resist. I hope to God we're not looking at another game like Fallout 3 or Dragon Age 2. I'd love to see a return to form, but they'd basically be flipping the bird to all the "modern CRPG fans" who think everything has to be reduced to an action game. I was hoping Skyrim would flop, but of course all that emphasis on action and audiovisuals pays off with Joe Gamer, and when designers see that, they rush in to imitate.

I'll be curious to see if the crowdfunding aspect has any influence on the design. If people donate thinking they'll get something like the original Wasteland, and end up with another Fallout 3, I think there'd be hell to pay. I don't know why a fan of the original Wasteland would *want* to see it end up as yet another FPS hybrid...I mean, what's the point? If I donated to this, it'd be because I want to see the original gameplay updated with a new interface and audiovisuals, but with the gameplay mostly intact.

Well, here's the thing... I think you ONLY crowdsource if you're high profile if you're going to do something that would not sit well with a modern day publisher and/or you want to try something more niche or off-the-wall. I think if you dangled a Fallout 3 or Dragon Age 2 type game in front of most publishers, they'd be all for it, so I think there's a very low chance a crowdsourced project would be its genesis...

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I agree with Bill. Also don't

I agree with Bill. Also don't underestimate returning to form. Grimrock hints at the true potential. Oldschool + good production value can do well, by a small team's standards.

Did i mention UW Gold is almost close to being finished? ;)

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