Ultima IV-free- GOG

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clok1966
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"PC download service Good Old Games has been on a bit of an Ultima binge recently. Not only did it put out a bundle of the first three Ultima games, but now it's gone and released Ultima 4: Quest of the Avatar for free! Yes, for free!" -Distructiod

While i really hate to say this, it might not be the best way to get 'inot" ultima, free is free. The older Ultimas are quite lacking (by todays standards) in graphics they do include alot of gameplay. Ultima 4 is probleby the easiest on the eyes of the first ones.. but alos introduced the "be good" avatar thing so can be quite a strange concept when compared to old games.

Free! checkit out if you are wondering what all the Ultima hype was back many a year ago.

clok1966
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I dont remeber any sound much

I dont remeber any sound much in the early Ultima games, but I did play them on IBM XT's (1-2-3) 4 was on the Apple and 5 i had on the c-64 i believe. There is something, we all talk about interface.. I never rembered caring about sound much in those game, but now days.. I'm sure I would think what you all are.. Some soung goes a long ways. (i grabbed U iV but to many new games right now.. heck way to many.. preordered Dead Island nad WH 40K Space marine.. both unlock tonight at midnight.. and I have tomoorow off..

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Well, here's the thing about

Well, here's the thing about Ultima IV... As was stated, the original PC version is the version you'd LEAST want to play in my opinion. Besides the original Apple II version with Mockingboard you have the Amiga and ST versions of the game that offer better visuals, sound and control. If you want something even more intuitive, yet still faithful, then play the Sega Master System version (the NES version is not comparable). I'm glad I'm beta testing the iPad version, because that to me is just about the best version you can have, simply because it updates the PC version's visuals and has a full orchestral soundtrack. It also puts contextual commands on the lower half of the screen, which makes playing it without the instructions (or your memorization) easy. Of course for me, I'd still PREFER to play the original Apple II version with Mockingboard on the real hardware because that's the setup I have, but coming at the game raw, I'd have to go with the iPad or SMS versions.

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Matt Barton
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The GOG version actually

The GOG version actually leaves a lot to be desired. There is music available in the other versions, but apparently the original DOS version lacked it. There are patches you can add to put it back in as well as VGA graphics, but I couldn't get them to work properly.

It's a shame I couldn't get the Apple II version working with mockingboard sound, since that's probably the closest to "Lord British's" vision.

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Rowdy Rob
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If MATT is confused.....
clok1966 wrote:

GOG shoud have the manual, and other stuff , hint book and such.. err if oyu got it there and have an account.

Unless I missed something, none of the materials GoG provides has a listing of the keyboard commands. I had to do an Internet search! The GoG-provided documentation left me more dumbfounded, not less, when I tried to play the game. The docs are almost as obscure as the game itself!

I finally figured out that my character is a ranger! I suppose that's cool, I dunno. I walk up to someone and try to talk, and get no response. "Hello" doesn't work.

If MATT is confused, there's NO WAY I will be able to figure this game out! This is far more complicated than Ultima II, which is practically boot-and-play in comparison!

So, is "Ultima IV" Richard Garriot's vanity project gone haywire? The game gets lots of great reviews, so maybe I'm just too stupid or impatient to get into this one. So.... I'm going to set this one aside, but thanks for the free game, GoG.

Matt Barton
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DAMN I HATE TO ADMIT DEFEAT,

DAMN I HATE TO ADMIT DEFEAT, but Ultima 4...Good Lord!

I've been reading the manuals, walkthroughs, guides, etc., and this still looks like a tough nut to crack. There's nothing straightforward or obvious in this game, not even the character creation!

I can't even figure out what you have to do to win. As far as I can tell, you first have to master 8 virtues by going to the towns and running errands, raising them up one by one. Then you have to recruit 8 people and go into dungeons to...get artifacts or something? I'm so lost. I can't even seem to find a decent Youtube review of the computer versions (just the lame looking NES version).

I booted up the Apple II roms and gave it a go, but something's broken. It can do the mockingboard emulation, but for some reason the game gets screwed up looking and ocassionally the sound drags...badly. Not sure if it's the rom, the mockingboard emu, or what...Be interested to hear if anyone here has been able to get that version running in an emulator with mockingboard and no glitches. Using the latest Apple Win.

In short, though, it looks like the ultimate NOT ON RAILS game. What the #$@ am I supposed to do? "You figure it out." How do I heal? "You figure it out." What am I supposed to say to people? "You figure it out." WTF? "There goes your virtue score, fffflush."

Anybody here actually beaten this game before? First off, wow, that's amazing. Now, could you give me some babysteps for getting anywhere in this @$@?

Example--one walkthrough said the first thing to do is look on the map and find a moongate to Lord British. Okay, done. But no moon gate. Oh, that's because the first moon has to be at the right phase. Uh? Okay, there's the gate. Now I gotta look at the second moon, get its phase right to go somewhere...uh, wrong place. Damnit! Where am I? Monster--is it evil, if so fight it, if not gotta flee from it..I give up.

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clok1966
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Rowdy Rob wrote:

Heck, even the "noob" guide Matt posted intimidated me! I just wanted a list of the keyboard commands. Well, here's a link to the Player Reference Card:

http://www.paradroid.net/u4/refguide/refguide.html

I'm beginning to think U4 is just too hardcore for me. Heck, I don't even know how to tell what "class" I am (yet)!

GOG shoud have the manual, and other stuff , hint book and such.. err if oyu got it there and have an account.

Rowdy Rob
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Ultima IV Player Reference Card

Heck, even the "noob" guide Matt posted intimidated me! I just wanted a list of the keyboard commands. Well, here's a link to the Player Reference Card:

http://www.paradroid.net/u4/refguide/refguide.html

I'm beginning to think U4 is just too hardcore for me. Heck, I don't even know how to tell what "class" I am (yet)!

Matt Barton
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ugh...

ugh...

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Matt Barton
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/56

http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/562660-ultima-iv-quest-of-the-avatar/faqs/45830

I found this today: A guide for Ultima noobs getting into Ultima IV. Hopefully, I'll be able to get somewhere with this game now!

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Matt Barton
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I've been trying to play it

I've been trying to play it as well, but the learning curve is steeeeeeeep. I hate to say it, but I think this one is just too old and cumbersome for most folks to get into without the benefit of nostalgia. I appreciate the innovations and bow to Garriott's genius, but this definitely isn't an easy one for noobs to get into.

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