Will Diablo 3 start a new hack 'n slash craze?

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vatrevligt
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After D3 is released will the industry start mass producing hack 'n slash games? Will it be the return of a genre?

I think that if D3 sells well(and it probably will) that we will see something like 4-5 titles that are in the 40$ price range and sells mediocre. 1 or 2 of these games will have a small time following after a couple of years.

I don't think D3 will live up to the hype as it's to much like WOW and not as old school as it could be. The cooldowns seems to be the hottest topic right now, along with the 'have to be connected to play' issue. A lot of people will love it. Even more will buy it, but in the end people will say "D3 was a great game, but I liked D2 better".

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Bill Loguidice
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I just don't understand Microsoft's strategy for Windows gaming. It seems like they look at it as competition for the Xbox. Just seems absurd to me.

If I were in charge, I'd team up with some PC manufacturers or just go my own way with an official Microsoft-branded PC. Make it compatible with the next Xbox so you can play the same games on the console OR the Microsoft PC, and protect that with a proprietary chip or something so the other PC guys couldn't copy them (and the software makers would have to get licenses to make products for it). Throw up a walled garden for the official Microsoft PC apps. I don't know if you could still install regular Windows programs on it, though, since they might be seen as competition--perhaps just turn a blind eye to that so the hackers could still have their fun, but make sure the regular users are safely behind a walled garden with all their games and apps.

Then sell the basic model for $600, perhaps a super edition with a bigger hard drive or whatever for a few hundred bucks more. Nothing special here; not the highest end graphics card or whatever; just a good, serviceable games-capable PC that will be fully supported for 5-6 years. This would really be a huge boost for PC gaming IMO because the standardized hardware would be a tremendous burden lifted. You could show it connected to the living room big-screen TV and include a couple of game controllers, a thin wireless keyboard, and Kinect instead of a mouse.

But then it's the old argument, because your PC then is just a computer that also plays a specific subset of games, or in the most extreme form just a console that can act like a computer (like the PS3's original OtherOS option). Besides, your $600 PC sounds an awful lot like a $99 (or free) OnLive console, so that option already exists...

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there was a 360 PCI card,

there was a 360 PCI card, prototype, not sure if it ever was more than a pipe dream, but there was some hardware samples in a few old game mags and websites (about the same time the 360 came out). My understanding was MS didnt want to make the 360 seem like a PC in any way (as the original xbox was really just a very cheap PC and most revieweres noted that). There seems to be a real stigma between PC and Console. In the end I think MS was wise to seperate them for the 360 generation. But There are already rumours swirling the next MS console will work with PC's in some way... most likley purely BS at this stage, but i cant help but think MS loves all this rumour stuff as its compations will have to judge the rumours and put some thought into them. And it looks like LIVE for windows is mergeing into LIVE .. so there will just be one service.

You talk about messing up.. 360 LIVE is pretty much the standard Live services are judged by.. how could MS screw up the Windows side of it so badly? Live for Windows.. I'm still trying to figure out how to get to the main game page sometimes. I did attempt to hit it once and awhile to see its daily deals.. but a bookmark was soon old and dindt work, and there is no CLEAR way to look.. it alwasy took me hitting several links to find it. Soon i gave up as it was just to much work.

personally a 360 PCI card that used my video and HD for $150-200 would be a Instant buy for me. From my very poor memory it seemed like the PCI card fromt he past was just a 360 on a card.. the PC was just the DVD and HD.. the grpahics and CPU where all ont eh PCI card.. so it actually cost more than the 360 and had less components... (and as my memory is really bad, maybe it was a XBOX one.. not the 360).

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I just don't understand Microsoft's strategy for Windows gaming. It seems like they look at it as competition for the Xbox. Just seems absurd to me.

If I were in charge, I'd team up with some PC manufacturers or just go my own way with an official Microsoft-branded PC. Make it compatible with the next Xbox so you can play the same games on the console OR the Microsoft PC, and protect that with a proprietary chip or something so the other PC guys couldn't copy them (and the software makers would have to get licenses to make products for it). Throw up a walled garden for the official Microsoft PC apps. I don't know if you could still install regular Windows programs on it, though, since they might be seen as competition--perhaps just turn a blind eye to that so the hackers could still have their fun, but make sure the regular users are safely behind a walled garden with all their games and apps.

Then sell the basic model for $600, perhaps a super edition with a bigger hard drive or whatever for a few hundred bucks more. Nothing special here; not the highest end graphics card or whatever; just a good, serviceable games-capable PC that will be fully supported for 5-6 years. This would really be a huge boost for PC gaming IMO because the standardized hardware would be a tremendous burden lifted. You could show it connected to the living room big-screen TV and include a couple of game controllers, a thin wireless keyboard, and Kinect instead of a mouse.

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clok1966
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I can see a dirge of clones,

I can see a dirge of clones, nothing like a big seller to inspire the knock off's. But as Starcraft II showed.. you can only remake a old game so lmany times no matter who you are. While it sold very well (great in fact) it didnt meet projections from the minutes of the shareholders meetings. I do think D3 will probelby sell better then SC2 did, its been ahwile since that type of game has gotten any real excitment from anybody. RTS are still being pumped out left and right, and up till just a few years ago the BIG names where still trying to recapture the glory C&C, Starcraft, none to the EXPECTED results.. but all to good results. Thre are several Diablo knock offs , but none in the last few years that i can recall, that should help it a bit. The action rpg is in full bloom right now though, which could be an issue, saturation is never a good thing. Blizzard bing Blizzard Im sure D3 will be a Huge hit and Im sure people will try to ride those coat tails. How many , tht is the question. I think with budgets and casual gaming growing people are not going to jump into such projocts like they used to.

There is a big Thread on EPIC stateing consoles are no longer their number one platform and PC now is... Seems a strange comment from sombody who has made thier current fortunes on the 360 with Gears. There is talk that BulletStorm failure was a bit of a wake up call. I wonder if MS renewed commitment to getting a Digital games platform for windows and Epics pretty much MS's boy if its all PR at play. And there are some who say the writing is on the wall, casual gaming is where everything is moving and huge budget long developmnet cycle games are going extinct, especially the ones with no mod/level/dlc online life. I wonder if Epic understand it cant compete on casual so is going back to waht they knew.. PC gaming?

to much is changing, i dont think the copy cats will be in force like htey where in the past.

Bill Loguidice
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I don't know, the hack and

I don't know, the hack and slash genre has been going slow and steady with the releases as it is, so I don't think Diablo 3 will really pick up that pace in any great way. Hopefully it improves the quality, because the last few, like the latest Dungeon Siege and D&D games have been mediocre at best.

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