Apple's Amazing Keynote - Revenge of the iPad!

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Well, Apple did it, they actually lived up to the hype yet again. Steve Jobs coming out on stage and doing the presentation was a brilliant touch. No matter what you think of Jobs or Apple, good for him. As for the iPad 2, well, Apple didn't merely iterate slightly, they did actually make a true "2", no now all those silly rumors of an iPad 3 coming out in the fall can be put to rest. 1.3 pounds, THINNER than my iPhone 4, new A5 processor, improved graphics, dual cameras, available in black and white, AT&T and Verizon from day one, 10 hour battery life, $499 starting price (maxes out at $829 for 64GB with WiFi/3G), HDMI mirrored output up to 1080p, smart covers, etc. I think my hemming and hawing over what tablet to get was for naught as the decision has been made rather handily for me. Apple is just too far ahead of the competition at this point. Maybe that will change within a few years, but right now, all things considered, the iPad 2 is the only logical choice in tablets. It hits the US on March 11 and rolls out to 26 more countries on March 25. So, what do you guys think? Are you sold or do you think there will be better options in 2011?

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Nathaniel Tolbert
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I'm not going to continue

I'm not going to continue arguing over this as the argument stems from our definition of the phrase to innovate. I see innovation as something wholeheartedly new and that is different from yours. I don't believe anyone right now is truly innovating when it comes to technology, and I will leave it at that. I don't think the iPad is a bad product but as I stated, it lacks certain fundamental aspects that I need if I am to use such a device. My problem with flash is that by blocking access to flash they are limiting a massive area of material on the net. Plain and simple. People don't have access to everything that they want. Everyone knows that Flash has problems, and I never stated otherwise. What I did say was that Adobe wants to make Flash better on the Mac OS and Jobs told them to take a long walk off of a short pier. What's worse is that you could make a program in Flash, and then convert it to Obj C and run it on the iOS system until for some reason (never explained as these programs run just fine.) Apple blocked the usage stating that the programs have to originate in their specific environment. If the end result is written in your environment, be it done by a program or by a person, why should it matter? Simply put, it doesn't. This is one company acting like a petulant child because they said something the company didn't like. It's like LG suing and blocking the sales of PS3 in the EU because of patents they have on Blu-Ray playback. Why would they do this now after so many years? Simple, Sony sued LG over phone patents. It's tit for tat.

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clok1966
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I dont like Apple (ms either)

I dont like Apple (ms either) but I will give Jobs props... he is marketing wiz.. They make great products becuase nlike the people they compete against they do one thing perfect. tablet PC, not new, but quite simply they took the idea and refined it into the IPAD which is quite possibly the best. They take their nitch and polish, refine and polish again. the products are good and work. Several all say "limited" and its true.. but they do what they do well!

One reason teyh can stay ahead of the curve is they dont try to get into every frigin market.. You mentioned Samsung. they make everything ... jack of all trades master of none. MS has this issue too. they want to bethe OS, the Browser, the media Player, The digital games seller, the Console seller, the office suite, the keyboard/mouse seller, the MP3 player, etc.. etc... it took them a few tries and some bad publicity to do the one theing they where somewhat good at(dependingon your point of view).. OS, they screwed that up with just enhancing 95 (98) Xp was ok, ME (blew) and Vista Flopped... they figured they need to work at waht they do best... and win7 seems a good step..

Apple works ona few products and does them well, its a pretty good system.

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Nathaniel I agree with your

Nathaniel I agree with your points completly, but you are leaving one thing out (and Bill mentions it alot and is correct) most of us who see all these flaws are not the target Apple is looking for. They want the "average" user who wants a problem free toy/tool The restrictive nature of Apples software does a very good job of making there products "just work" and for that target user its a PERFECT machine. In some ways its really a great Idea.. APPLE does do some quality assurance for you, they also decide If a FART ap is ok (which (maybe they are not as uptight as I think) they do let by) or If i should view P0rn...not such a fan of them deciding what I use it for. But as i say, it does mean less crap (unworking not content) get by and out to the user, which in turn make the product look better.

I wont own anymore apple products until they let me decide what I want to put on it.. I dont mind them making sure the aps work and testing them for problems. but policing them... no thanks.. also how I interact with there products.. Itunes.. docking, etc.. no thanks...

Nous
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Cheaper than
Matt Barton wrote:

I can't believe any of us here would consider $500 to be pocket change. That's what, at least twice as much as a modern console or netbook? I'm pretty sure you could buy a decent desktop for that, even. So I'll stick to my guns on this being a luxury item for elites; the folks who already have all that stuff and have either techno lust or a desire to look cool (or both).

With my colleagues here at SCSU, the ones I notice with iPhones and iPads fit a peculiar demographic--they aren't tech savvy per se, but buying these devices and using them at meetings and such instantly confers that reputation on them. People watch them using the multi-touch and so on and are obviously wowed. Of course, we know that the interfaces on these things are designed to be intuitive and simple to use, but for an outsider just looking on--it can look almost like magic. In short, well worth the $500 for anyone hoping for a quick boost to their tech and "with it" image.

What I meant is that this has nothing to do with "Apple products costing more", in general.

You can get an iPod Touch 4th gen for 200 bucks (amazon.com), you can get an iPad 1 for $399 and an iPad 2 for $499.

Some of these products may be too expensive (and I certainly consider anything over $200 to be NOT quite ready for the mass market), however they ARE cheaper than non-Apple products of even remotely comparable quality and functionality!

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clok1966
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interesting

[quote=Bill Loguidice As for the iPad 2, well, Apple didn't merely iterate slightly, they did actually make a true "2", no now all those silly rumors of an iPad 3 coming out in the fall can be put to rest. 1.3 pounds, THINNER than my iPhone 4, new A5 processor, improved graphics, dual cameras, available in black and white, AT&T and Verizon from day one, 10 hour battery life, $499 starting price (maxes out at $829 for 64GB with WiFi/3G), HDMI mirrored output up to 1080p,[/quote]

ok I talked with our programers and got the dev specs. Not sure where you are getting Improved graphics, specs are same for dev (of course res is not the only spec that matters for graphics maybe a differnt type screen? Nothing on that in dev docs). I see its also not going to let you sync without a a cord still... :( stream music and vido but ...geez with wirless computing and such the wire is getting OLD. Still 256 base memory.. this is a HUGE one...and makes a differnce when programing (dev docs do say "subject to change" but when developing you cant "guess" at that).

Cosmeticly its nicer, and it is FASTER (big one).. but not much else.. now if thye where ot offer a 128 of larger HD (SSD in the 64-128 are in teh $130-200 area) for an extra $200... that would be some sweet room and very interesting.

Nous
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kickass

Apple is totally kicking ass and taking names right now - they're "flumoxing" extremely capable competitors (Samsung is a *major* player and will definitely come back - but look at them now, running like headless chicken trying to figure it out). Hell, Apple is putting the fear of God into Iwata and Reggie, that's saying something ;-)

No, but seriously, OF COURSE they innovate and produce amazing designs AND tech at prices that (apparently) their competition can't match!

Just to make it clear, what I meant was that in my case - and it's definitely not the norm - a tablet is "nice" but a really portable computer is necessary. Either way, a really capable smartphone that lasts all day is essential.

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Bill Loguidice
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A very good Macworld piece

A very good MacWorld piece that provides additional details about the iPad 2 (or at least consolidates what is known): http://www.macworld.com/article/158310/2011/03/ipad_2_faq.html#lsrc=twt_...

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Matt Barton
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You guys are confusing

You guys are confusing "invention" with "innovation."

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Chris Kennedy
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Yeah...
Matt Barton wrote:

You guys are confusing "invention" with "innovation."

I gotta agree here. Nothing personal against anyone, but to say "Apple isn't innovative" isn't an opinion...it's ignorance. I certainly don't agree with the approaches they have taken when it comes to how much they control their software, but they are changing the way we do things. The iPhone changed the approach to smart phones. The iPad changed the "tablet computer" and caused the masses to really jump on board.

You cannot deny that Apple has changed the way we do things in recent years, and you also cannot deny that everyone is trying to copy Apple. Why wouldn't they? Just look at the sales of these things.

Perhaps they didn't invent some of these things, but they changed the way we use them.

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Chris Kennedy
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Hmmm...
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but to say "Apple isn't innovative" isn't an opinion...it's ignorance.

I keep reading that and thinking it sounds pretty harsh. That was not my intention. I apologize if it came off too strong to anyone.

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