Commodore USA Teases New Amiga Computers

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I almost hesitate to post about Commodore USA yet again, but I have to give the plucky licensor of the "Commodore USA" name credit yet again. Hot on the heels of them designing a new Commodore 64 case to stuff modern day PC components inside, they've now done the same with the Amiga, creating case designs reminiscent of the Amiga 1000, 2000, and 3000, respectively. With their usual hyperbole-filled bluster, they're also describing Amiga Workbench 5.0, which from the description appears to be a fancy skinning of the Linux operating system with Commodore 8-bit and Amiga emulators (as well as of course the option to dual boot or run directly via a standard emulation layer, Windows). For those interested, they've also been doing updates on Twitter and Facebook, so if you're into that sort of thing, you can follow the somewhat scattershot goings on via those services as well. Naturally, I'll continue to check in on the company now and again, but it's with the usual caveat of not expecting much from overpriced PC components stuffed into cases that you may or may not find interesting. On the plus side, they do appear to be offering just the cases for some of the models, so that's certainly sporting of them. No word yet still on when actual products will be available for sale.

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Matt Barton
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Hehe, I didn't mean shooting

Hehe, I didn't mean shooting and such--should have specified I meant the economic differences.

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Gigabyte (not verified)
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The negative feedback is sad. Apple has been over charging for their Powerpc, way back, for years and continue to over charge for their intel machines as well. I think choice is good, and Commodore USA is giving the public just that. You are always going to have the haters; "are you surprised!".

Good for Commodore. I agree with some about the ability to keep the AMIGA fully compatible with previous models; however, I feel the old software is outdated and really can use a refreshing change for those who are open minded and embrace competition. It's time we are given something else to play with other then Windoz!

For those who think Commodore is over priced, you get alot more with an Amiga than you get with an over priced iMac that is nothing but a pc in a fancy designer case. Sorry Mac lovers but the Mac lost its mojo when they turned their machines into glorified pc machines.

Don't be a hater, the world has enough already.

Finally the HOME computer is back!

Bill Loguidice
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No, Gigabyte, that's not what

No, Gigabyte, that's not what this is about.

First off, Apple is overpriced to who? Apple haters? They've always carried a premium, but is the value ultimately there for the consumer? Most owners of Apple products I think would say yes. Also, just because one company charges a lot of money it doesn't excuse it when someone else does it, regardless of whether or not the reasoning is the same (and in this case, they're not the same reasons). It's completely irrelevant.

Second, Commodore USA just picked up the name, first, without permission, then, with permission. They're not the same company as the Commodore of old, not even close, not even a little bit. They're a small shop who assembles off-the-shelf parts and puts them in fancy cases. The premium is hard to swallow, especially when that premium exceeds most other boutique PC prices. So, without the authentic company and exceedingly high prices, what is there NOT to be critical of?

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Gigabyte (not verified)
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Yes Bill, point well taken, although, I use a Mac on a daily basis at work and their is nothing I can' t do on a pc that can be done on my Mac. If $1800.00 Canadian for a glorified pc is not much than what is.

"What is your idea of a premium package?"; itunes, imovie, and iphoto: "Really".

I enjoy my Mac, but Apple is over priced. Always has been.

On that note, yes Commodore is not the old Commodore. So what, shoot every new player that wants to give users a choice. All I am saying it's refreshing to see that, at least, somebody is trying to bring back a brand with a new twist. Why...well why not.

For those die hard AMIGA users, well, Commodore CBM failed to keep the dream alive so did Jack Tramiel with ATARI with the ST.

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I don't agree that Macs are

I don't agree that Macs are necessarily overpriced anymore, but that's just me (I do agree that at one time - in fact for most of the life of the company - they were VERY overpriced). They come in all price ranges and models. You'll often pay more for what you can get equivalent on the PC side, but not necessarily always, and there's not always something comparable.

Anyway, we support a wide range of companies here, it's just that many of us - including many outside Armchair Arcade - believe that Commodore USA got off to a poor start by claiming the name before they actually had it, and also have a questionable strategy. I for one would have considered, for instance, a new computer with a nice 8-bit emulation suite in a Commodore 64 case, but not at those prices. You either go for something completely new and compete on price, which they're nowhere close to doing, or you go for nostalgia and make something that becomes so enchanting that I disregard the inflated pricing. Again, there's nothing compelling about these new Commodore USA products, and I'm certainly not alone. I don't wish them ill-will, even with the sleazy name thing when they first formed the company, but I also have no illusions of their potential for success. I just don't see a scenario where they can succeed with their present strategy and especially in how they're using the Commodore name.

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Rob Daviau
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Nice try
Gigabyte wrote:

The negative feedback is sad. Apple has been over charging for their Powerpc, way back, for years and continue to over charge for their intel machines as well. I think choice is good, and Commodore USA is giving the public just that. You are always going to have the haters; "are you surprised!".

Good for Commodore. I agree with some about the ability to keep the AMIGA fully compatible with previous models; however, I feel the old software is outdated and really can use a refreshing change for those who are open minded and embrace competition. It's time we are given something else to play with other then Windoz!

For those who think Commodore is over priced, you get alot more with an Amiga than you get with an over priced iMac that is nothing but a pc in a fancy designer case. Sorry Mac lovers but the Mac lost its mojo when they turned their machines into glorified pc machines.

Don't be a hater, the world has enough already.

Finally the HOME computer is back!

I am and always will be the biggest AMIGA fan, but you cannot change the fact that these are not AMIGA computers outside of the label and logo and perhaps officially licensed copyright. OTHER THAN THAT they are Over priced PC's. They run LINUX with a AMIGA skin and while it is very nice it is nothing I could not do on my own PC or nothing I could not build or easily mod myself to create something identical.

The AMIGA is NOT BACK at least not for anyone who truly was a fan or user of the original machines back in the day.
It is not about being negative but accepting reality, it's not about comparing to iMac or MACS, I have never bothered with them either, for me it has always been about AMIGA and PC. When I replace my laptop I plan to use my old one with Commodore OS Vision (You know that LINUX distro with the AMIGA / Commodore theme?) that wont make it a AMIGA anymore than the new Commodore Machines are. Does not mean I do not appreciate them (If you want to give me one I will take it) but you cannot call these AMIGA's new or otherwise outside of name, they ARE PC's. If your really an AMIGA fan with knowledge of what the machine was as well as what it meant back in the day you would see that. As it stands your post come off as a marketer for CommodoreUSA or simply someone who has no hands on experience or original knowledge of REAL AMIGA's. Not saying that is the case, but if your a AMIGA fan and user from back in the day your sadly disillusioned and just they type CommdoreUSA hopes to fool.

It is NOT about being negative or a hater, it's about not being fooled, seeing something for what it is and being honest with oneself and others. WHY is being truthful considered Hateful or negative? It simply is what it is, nothing more nothing less.

UPDATE: BILL noticed your reply, must of appeared as I typed mine but yeah pretty much sums up my points to........

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Gigabyte (not verified)
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Of course they are not true AMIGA'S! No more than Ford a new Mustang is ti the original. At some point, you have to let go of the past and embrace the new. Jay Miner was the brains behind Amiga. Too bad Atari failed to see it.

Nonetheless, I like the fact somebody is trying to bring in choice. Even if it bares the AMIGA name.

Bill Loguidice
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Value is what again?
Gigabyte wrote:

Of course they are not true AMIGA'S! No more than Ford a new Mustang is ti the original. At some point, you have to let go of the past and embrace the new. Jay Miner was the brains behind Amiga. Too bad Atari failed to see it.

Nonetheless, I like the fact somebody is trying to bring in choice. Even if it bares the AMIGA name.

What choice? What makes these worth the premium over even boutique PC makers? I can get a fire breathing gaming PC with a mainstream OS for what they're charging at Commodore USA for these regular PCs with Linux. Again, I'm trying to see why I should care...

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Gigabyte (not verified)
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You shouldn't. However would it made a diffetence if they called it the new ATARI 1040ST? You would have Atari Nation crying foul! Yes, the machinrs are pricey, but the haedware is alot morerobust than your typical iMac.

Nobody says you should buy a new Commodore, but you can't fault them for trying. I loved the old Commodore and Atari. Guess what, they both let us down.

Oh, by the way, the same applies to Apple. I certainly could have a kick ass pc for the price of a imac let alone a powermac: "seriously".

Apple is a legend on its own;however, for some Apple users they can do no wrong.

Some can argue the old PowerMacs were macs and that the new intel Macs are just that pcs with eye candy and a fancy dress to impress the ones who need to make a fashion statement on their desk.

Who cares right? It is what is is. Just let the new players enjoy a piece of the pie.

Bill Loguidice
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Really?
Gigabyte wrote:

You shouldn't. However would it made a diffetence if they called it the new ATARI 1040ST? You would have Atari Nation crying foul! Yes, the machinrs are pricey, but the haedware is alot morerobust than your typical iMac.

Nobody says you should buy a new Commodore, but you can't fault them for trying. I loved the old Commodore and Atari. Guess what, they both let us down.

Oh, by the way, the same applies to Apple. I certainly could have a kick ass pc for the price of a imac let alone a powermac: "seriously".

Apple is a legend on its own;however, for some Apple users they can do no wrong.

Some can argue the old PowerMacs were macs and that the new intel Macs are just that pcs with eye candy and a fancy dress to impress the ones who need to make a fashion statement on their desk.

Who cares right? It is what is is. Just let the new players enjoy a piece of the pie.

I don't know what this obsession is with comparing this stuff to Apple. If you're comparing Commodore USA's Linux-based PC's in fancy cases to Apple's MacOS-based PC's in fancy cases, it still doesn't match up. Commodore USA's cheapest Amiga Mio is $995 (i3, 4GB, 320GB), while Apple's cheapest Mac Mini is $599 (i5, 2GB, 500GB). And Commodore USA wins there how again?

I'd have no problem supporting Commodore USA, but they have yet to give me (and others) a reason to. You haven't given me a reason to either other than bashing Apple, which shouldn't even factor into the equation.

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