Windows8- MS big push for PC gaming?

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clok1966
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http://www.gametab.com/news/3547129/

I might be wrong but after the bomb Vista was and win7 only just getting its first major patchs, talking about 8 sure seems to be early. Let alone the PC gameing push. I have to agree with most, the offering of Direct X, and some pretty good games in the past, MS has helped PC gaming in the past. But the "what have you done for me lately" is a legit question. Live for Windows is pretty much been left in the dust. Only recently yave they done some excellent work to get some people to check it out with some great deals (99cent games!).

As i read the link above all I could think was: the check is in the mail, I will call you tomorrow, etc... As a dedicated PC gamer I can think of nothing I would like more than some dedicated PC support. But I invision MS looking to sell XBOX gamepads to windows user, not improve game development on windows. We all know the console market is not the actual unit but the games and extra's... I think MS is going to try grab some of that market. Most Xbox stuff should work with PC's anyways (the gamepads do, intersting question, does the stearingwheel also work if you have the PC reciever, have to check as I have um to test!). My predictions are pretty bleak and not nice.. I just dont htink MS will put its eggs in two baskets (pc and 360). I do think they want games to succed on the PC as it drives sales and hardware, even if its not MS hardware most PC's run MS OS, so its good.

Lorfarius
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Sadly I've long since thrown the issue.
Bill Loguidice wrote:

I still don't see how it's in MS's interests to sabotage PC gaming because let's face it, MS *is* the PC, so they'd be sabotaging themselves. The only area where MS would sabotage PC gaming is in keeping exclusive titles like the Halo series on the Xbox 360, but Microsoft is no longer a high volume publisher of first party games anyway so the amount of titles kept off the PC in favor of the 360 are relatively minimal. If anything, Sony and Nintendo are sabotaging the PC because you'll never find ANY of their first party titles on the PC, which is a far bigger blow if you look at the relative sales of their first party titles verus MS's. Look, it comes down to where the money is, and that's with consoles. With a few exceptions like Civilization V, Starcraft II, WoW and The Sims games (though those no longer sell quite as much), the blockbusters tend to be on the console side, with far less piracy to worry about to boot. That has nothing to do with MS, that's just the whims of the market. I doubt there's much MS or anyone else can do to make the PC platform thrive any more as a games platform. There's just too much variability in all ways on the PC side, right down to knowing just what hardware each and every consumer has. MS could have made Games for Windows the greatest platform in the world, but then consumers would have still been distracted by Steam, battle.net, OnLive, GameTap, etc., and it still might not have made a difference. As always, the PC's greatest strength - choice - is also it's great enemy since it causes a high degree of fragmentation. Consoles don't offer the same freedoms, but their beauty lies in the one target platform that can be controlled by Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo respectively. It's kind of like the Android versus iOS debate - do you want the freedom that Android offers and all the pitfalls of the fragmentation or do you want the unified experience iOS offers and the closed nature of that environment?

Sadly I've long since thrown the issue. From what I recall it was more about how MS were trying to push developers into the 360 market, doing sly things to discourage PC release where possible. I could understand why MS would be doing such a thing as they pretty much ring fence the 360 market, everything on there is MS from online services, downloadable add ons etc There's a lot less risk involved and easier money to be made.

Bill Loguidice
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I still don't see how it's in

I still don't see how it's in MS's interests to sabotage PC gaming because let's face it, MS *is* the PC, so they'd be sabotaging themselves. The only area where MS would sabotage PC gaming is in keeping exclusive titles like the Halo series on the Xbox 360, but Microsoft is no longer a high volume publisher of first party games anyway so the amount of titles kept off the PC in favor of the 360 are relatively minimal. If anything, Sony and Nintendo are sabotaging the PC because you'll never find ANY of their first party titles on the PC, which is a far bigger blow if you look at the relative sales of their first party titles verus MS's. Look, it comes down to where the money is, and that's with consoles. With a few exceptions like Civilization V, Starcraft II, WoW and The Sims games (though those no longer sell quite as much), the blockbusters tend to be on the console side, with far less piracy to worry about to boot. That has nothing to do with MS, that's just the whims of the market. I doubt there's much MS or anyone else can do to make the PC platform thrive any more as a games platform. There's just too much variability in all ways on the PC side, right down to knowing just what hardware each and every consumer has. MS could have made Games for Windows the greatest platform in the world, but then consumers would have still been distracted by Steam, battle.net, OnLive, GameTap, etc., and it still might not have made a difference. As always, the PC's greatest strength - choice - is also it's great enemy since it causes a high degree of fragmentation. Consoles don't offer the same freedoms, but their beauty lies in the one target platform that can be controlled by Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo respectively. It's kind of like the Android versus iOS debate - do you want the freedom that Android offers and all the pitfalls of the fragmentation or do you want the unified experience iOS offers and the closed nature of that environment?

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Lorfarius
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I was reading an interesting

I was reading an interesting article in the UK Edge magazine recently (Xmas issue I think) where they were chatting from a chap involved at Microsoft who thinks the company is trying to sabotage the PC games scene. Made for some interesting reading but MS are trying to hedge all the games into the world of Xbox and where they could have made Windows for Games a success, simply steered clear.

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Yes, the MS steering wheel

Yes, the MS steering wheel does work on the PC. I recently bought the Logitech Force GT for the PS3 (also works on the PS2 and PC) and I love it. I wish the MS wheel was still on offer so my 360 could get in on the steering wheel fun.

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