Hello from a new user!

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ironmaidenrule
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Apologies if this is in the wrong topic, but I couldn't find anything relating to new users.

Just wanted to say hello to the forum as a new member, I have been listening to the podcasts and watching Matt chat, and with the thread relating to closing the forum, I though I had better get involved before it all goes away.

I am a UK based retro-gamer, and currently into the Mega Drive, Atari Lynx and the Neo Geo Pocket Colour. I have been spending many hours in the dungeons of Nethack, so any tips will be appreciated.

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Goblin Camp

Thanks for the heads up on Goblin Camp, Rowdy Rob. Had a quick download but it seems very much to be still in development...will keep my eye on it at it seems very interesting.

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Great to have you on board, Ironmaidenrule! (And Dwarf Fortress)

Welcome, Ironmaidenrule! Glad to have you on board. I have little experience with the Atari Lynx and Neo Geo systems (except the Neo Geo coin-op games), but have played me some Mega Drive/Genesis games, and Nethack was an obsession for a while!

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Be warned. As far as I'm concerned, Dwarf Fortress has the highest learning curve/grok curve of any game EVER. I have it on my laptop and tried to play it twice after constructing a new world. Still totally clueless.

I agree, Bill. Dwarf Fortress was pretty much impenetrable to me, due to the extreme learning curve and very abstract map screen/interface. I doubt even Matt would care for this one, since the interface (and game itself) is so hardcore! I realize that it is a very deep game, and it has some very impressive specs, but the interface and extreme learning curve put me off after a couple of tries. You MUST spend a lot of time to learn the game, and I just don't have that kind of time or energy.

There is a perhaps-simpler variant (or so I hear) of Dwarf Fortress called Goblin Camp. It looks a little cleaner, and is perhaps easier to learn. I have no experience with it, but it appears to be similar to Dwarf Fortress, easier to learn but not as deep, but it may have a few tricks of its own up its sleeve. It might be worth a try for you harder-core gamers.

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Bill Loguidice wrote:

Be warned. As far as I'm concerned, Dwarf Fortress has the highest learning curve/grok curve of any game EVER. I have it on my laptop and tried to play it twice after constructing a new world. Still totally clueless.

I had this same problem, its one of those games that (in its native asci) is not pretty to look at, very complex, and very easy to screw up and wreck the game quickly. And on top of that, as you say it take a LONG time to get to that "ahah! moment where you "get it" and the game starts to be way more fun that you expected.. Im pretty sure most people never make it that far. When I started it I was so lost, but kept plugging awy as it had that feeling that there was something dang cool there, it was jut that i didnt understand it.

the reall problem I see with DF, with all the games out there, who has the time to learn it.. My suggestion is some Youtube on it.. it may not help alot, but it should help some.

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The mystery of the Giraffe Clock
ironmaidenrule wrote:

....Thank you for the welcome Mark, again I enjoy your 'tube channel also....wonder where the Giraffe clock is now :)...

The Giraffe Clock a.k.a. GC is still around, closer than you might think. Rob Daviau a.k.a. MaximumRD is its current keeper/guardian. Although rules dictate that it will eventually move on yet again.

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Dwarf Fortress

Thanks for the extra Drawf Fortress links clok1966...and yes the game is very hard, will grind-on and see if I can get a bit further into the game.

Thank you for the welcome Mark, again I enjoy your 'tube channel also....wonder where the Giraffe clock is now :)

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Welcome

Got those systems as well. Based in the Netherlands myself! Welcome aboard!

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tilesets
ironmaidenrule wrote:

Never played Dwarf Fortress, after a quick Google search it does look fantastic, thank you for the recommendation.

I will give this a play tomorrow, as I have the day off work due to bad weather.

incredibly complex and fun game.. but I would recomend a front end for it.. of course if you play NETHACK in its native asci form maybe you wont care..

http://mayday.w.staszic.waw.pl/df.php

or go here for lots and lots of them (tilesets)

http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Tileset_repository

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Dwarf Fortress

Be warned. As far as I'm concerned, Dwarf Fortress has the highest learning curve/grok curve of any game EVER. I have it on my laptop and tried to play it twice after constructing a new world. Still totally clueless.

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Dwarf Fortress

Never played Dwarf Fortress, after a quick Google search it does look fantastic, thank you for the recommendation.

I will give this a play tomorrow, as I have the day off work due to bad weather.

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I loved playing Nethack and

I loved playing Nethack and other roguelikes on my Amiga and PC. I don't play them so much now, though every now and then I'll get the itch. I've heard that most people who like those games also like Dwarf Fortress. Have you tried that one yet?

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