Thanksgiving- Marathon gameing session need help

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clok1966
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We are suposed to have crappy traveling weather over thanksgivng here so my trip home is off. I have 4 days of gaming ahead and sadly am a tiny bit burned out on gaming at the moment. But I have a ton of games to play. RPG's have alwasy been my favorite, but slow starting ones are hard to get into for me anymore. I was going throuhg all the Matt chat posts with links and seen a couple games and that brought me up to this. Anybody have any opinions on a few games if any of you ahve played um.

SWKOTR- I have started this game about 3 times and lost interest (slow starter). I have always heard its a great game. Will it pick up a bit?

Jade Empire- Got this at a gogamer sale for $5 for the PC, but never looked at it. Heard it was great also (I am leaning to trying this one), I'm trying to remeber, I may have played it on the xbox (just not sure).

Risen- I put about an hour into this one a few nights ago. Looks pretty dang good.

Magna Carta 2 (360)- Havent done a RPG on the consoles since i finished White Knight on the PS3.

So anybody palyed any of these to the end, which is the best? ( i know thats a purely opinion thing)..
Or even other suggestions. Recently (as in last 2 years) I have finished all the RPG's (good and bad) on the 360 and PS3 up to anyything hte was released till about 6 months ago) on the PC.. Drakenguard (dark eye), Dragons Age, Gothic 3, (and replayed Wizardry GOLD (wizardry7)) and a couple others Im forgeting Im sure.

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I must admit that my be my

I must admit that my be my singel biggest gripe with Asian RPG's.. the LUCAS effect (i call it that, cute crap (EWOKS!!!) in content that shouldnt be in it ) They seem to have to have some floating cat/bunny thing that fights with you. Also... man do I hate the kid thing.. all these kids in the asain RPG's.. its border on pedo to me. I know you make your content so the people playing it can relate. But alot fo these games ar mature...
The last FInal Fantasy, the two kids, the winny boy and the bubbly girl.. I wanted to rip the disc out each time I played them.. annoying to a degree I never thought was possible.
The problem is, most of the Asian RPG's are still the best one, they hold the old school RPG elements close. Dont get me wrong Mass Effect and Dragons Age where both pretty dang good, but i long for hte old days (never happen I guess).. age/time and such, just never play a RPG again with the wonder i had with Dragon Warrior, Phantasy Star (one), etc..

the thing that has frustrated me in the last few years with consoles is the button combos... Im not "smart" enough to remeber to hold 3 buttons and the left L1 key.. The NEW generation of RPG's for consoles have to many options. Again the new FF.. I like the game but it was almost oerkill, pargram shift, etc.. in real time...

Bill Loguidice
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Good question, Rob. Yes,

Good question, Rob. Yes, though I'm no expert I do have my fair share of Japanese interpretations of Western RPGs. Occasionally you'll find straight up interpretations except with better graphics (the Wizardry games on the TurboDuo or MSX2 for instance), but you're absolutely right, in many other cases, particularly when these are new sequels or offshoots, they'll give it the full "anime" flair. Not necessarily with cutesy critters, but definitely with the art direction that culture is associated with. That's rather disappointing of course to some, like me. While I can tolerate the style more or less, it just gives a very different feel to an originally very Western experience. At some point I should do some captures from them as it would make an interesting comparison.

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Wizardry/Phantasie in Japan?!??!
Bill Loguidice wrote:
clok1966 wrote:

Side note I see WIZARDRY is being revived on the PS3, sadly its all in Japan only it seems, no english on the webpage.

They resurrect it over there every once in a while it seems. I have what I assume is the most recent Wizardry IP game for the PS2, Wizardry: Tale of the Forsaken Land, but that was released back in 2001. It's funny how popular Ultima and Wizardry proved over there and how they get sequels to certain RPGs (like Phantasie IV) that never see the light anywhere else, even though all of these games originated in the West. Very strange situation.

I'm curious how the Japanese have developed these originally-Western RPG's. Are they now full of anime-style cutscenes and whimsical/cutesy characters?

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Heck, I'm an old school CRPG

Heck, I'm an old school CRPG guy through and through, even though I do have some of the newer RPGs like Mass Effect 1/2, Oblivion, Dragon Age, Fallout 3, etc. Luckily, there's enough vintage CRPG's to keep me busy the rest of my life and I can always replay a favorite or two as well (like the Phantasie series or AutoDuel).

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They still sell well over

They still sell well over there (RPG's). though from what I read, no where near what they used to. RPG's like we are used to are a dying breed I think. Dragons Age and the like will be the only ones making it that we will see. But then again, everything old is new again.. platformers had a mild resurection the last couple years, maybe RPG's will too? I never played any of the PC rpg's counterparts on the consoles..

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clok1966 wrote:

Side note I see WIZARDRY is being revived on the PS3, sadly its all in Japan only it seems, no english on the webpage.

They resurrect it over there every once in a while it seems. I have what I assume is the most recent Wizardry IP game for the PS2, Wizardry: Tale of the Forsaken Land, but that was released back in 2001. It's funny how popular Ultima and Wizardry proved over there and how they get sequels to certain RPGs (like Phantasie IV) that never see the light anywhere else, even though all of these games originated in the West. Very strange situation.

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I thought Jade Empire was a great chance of pace. KOTOR is one of my favorites (I did a MC on it awhile back), but I did quit at first and then come back to it later.

If you need something to fight the WOW addiction, I'd suggest Civ 4 or 5. Those are about the only games (for me) that can really compete with it. Or, if you haven't played it yet, Empire: Total War was spectacular.

I never was good with Civ, when STEAM had the sale on the last one with all expansion I got it. I could do MOM (master of Magic), and games that borrow heavily form CIv, but Civ... I was never good at it at all. And losing alot and never seeming to improve my skill with more play frustrarted me to no end.. I see the appeal, but my skill with the game is not good.

Empire:Total war, yes.. loved it.. and its predecessors (alexander:rome, Midevial, etc).. Recently tried out King Arthur (somewhat the same style of game) one I want to play, but to many others atm.

I think my problem is simple, to dang many games. In the past money limited my game time, so basicly any game I bought I finished, good or bad. Nowdays if its a good deal on STEAM i buy it, if i see a 360/PS3 game on sale for anything under $20 (if its realativly new) i buy it.. Im the kid who is locked in a closed candy store.. I have ate to many sweets and cant just be happy with one good one.

as i have said before, my goal right now is:
Cannot buy any new games untill I finish an old game.. one for one, one finished, than i can purchase a new one. sounds simple, but with my track record lately (if its not a RPG) i tend to paly 2-3 days and move on..... Fallout:vegas, I am all but done, the final quest is just on hte last steps Im max level, have "most" of the cool guns, and achievments. I have not finished as once the main quest is done the game credits roll, game over. Silly, not finish and not play, or finish and not play.... I enjoyed it so much I am hesitant to finish it..

Side note I see WIZARDRY is being revived on the PS3, sadly its all in Japan only it seems, no english on the webpage.

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I thought Jade Empire was a

I thought Jade Empire was a great chance of pace. KOTOR is one of my favorites (I did a MC on it awhile back), but I did quit at first and then come back to it later.

If you need something to fight the WOW addiction, I'd suggest Civ 4 or 5. Those are about the only games (for me) that can really compete with it. Or, if you haven't played it yet, Empire: Total War was spectacular.

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clok1966
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With winter here Im pretty

With winter here Im pretty Sure I will hit KOTOR and jade again, see if I can last longer... that is of course when the WoW addiction slows down (if ever, the new expansion hits on the 7th!). I'm glad I was not the oonly one who thought that about KOTOR.. Had heard such good things about it and was hopeing they where just not showing up early in the game.

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I think I must have stopped

I think I must have stopped playing just before that final third. I put a lot of hours in and it certainly had lost steam by then.

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