Console/computer you like that others "Hate" on. What do you think?

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Rob Daviau
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Topic: Console or Computer you like (or love) that others "Hate" on.

This is an open tag so please respond in comments or even better video form and give your story about a console or computer you happen to think is great that others tend to dislike, crap on or down right despise. One mans garbage is another mans treasure as they say and this certainly applies to consoles and computers. YES there actually ARE people out there who enjoy Atari 5200/Jaguar/Virtual Boy/Lynx/3DO/CDi that many others simply think are not worth a second look! If you enjoy on of these or another less than popular console/computer then PLEASE chime in with your story!

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Mark Vergeer
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RPGs

Shmups, fighting games, platformers, adventure games and RPGs did it for me.

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Bill Loguidice
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I must say I enjoyed

I must say I enjoyed Einhander as well, and Bushido Blade for that matter.

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PSX

The PlayStation, for me anyway, pretty much boiled down to Einhänder, Raiden Project, Thunderforce V, Crash Team Racing, Soul Blade and the Suikoden? series.

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Mark Vergeer
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Playstation 1

I do love that grey box too with the nice colorful logo...

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PS1 memories
clok1966 wrote:

I certinaly agree with you on one part, Res Evil.. It was "THE GAME", marketing blitz, great word of mouth, and great reviews. I HAD TO HAVE IT.. and once bought it was a massive dispointment for me.

But I loved Warhawk, Jumping Flash, Tekken, Toshiden, etc.. I loved 2D games too (still do) It was the generation of games where home really was as good or better (in some cases) then Arcade.. I must admit the downfall of the Arcade with home consoles, not a good thing..

Though I could never play that far into Resident Evil because I found the gameplay overall quite clumsy, I thought it had a very effective horror atmosphere. I TRIED to love Warhawk (really hard), but I found it pretty unplayable sadly. Loved the visuals, though. I always enjoyed Battle Arena Toshinden a great deal because it was a fighting game that very accessible and logical to me. I'm not big into combo heavy fighting games.

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agree somewhat
Chip Hageman wrote:

I think that is where a great deal of the disconnect is among gamers. I really love 2D games.. particularly shoot'em ups.. I love top down (Ultima Style) adventures.. I love hand drawn pixel art. I really thought the Playstation was kind of a step back because they could "phone it in" as far as the graphics were concerned.. i.e. do a wireframe model and let the renderer sort it out... and many of the early 3D games just controlled badly..

For instance, when I first bought the Playstation, I remember the guy saying I had to have Resident Evil because it was the best thing since sliced bread. When I got home and fired it up I was expecting to be awed.. instead I just felt cheated... Odd viewing angles, disjointed gameplay, awkward cut seens, bad graphics, derivative story, and the characters controlled like a tank. :-)

Dunno, I just felt the early 3D systems where technology for technologies sake.. it just didn't feel like they had sorted everything out yet.. which in retrospect, they hadn't.

BTW: I love the later Resident Evils.. but I am in no way nostalgic for the early games.

-Chip

I certinaly agree with you on one part, Res Evil.. It was "THE GAME", marketing blitz, great word of mouth, and great reviews. I HAD TO HAVE IT.. and once bought it was a massive dispointment for me.

But I loved Warhawk, Jumping Flash, Tekken, Toshiden, etc.. I loved 2D games too (still do) It was the generation of games where home really was as good or better (in some cases) then Arcade.. I must admit the downfall of the Arcade with home consoles, not a good thing..

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Saturn....

That would be my Saturn. I could easily have made a video on my Odyssey2/Videopac for the exact same reason. Back then kids put the latter down for it not being Atari2600-worthy.
Here is my game and my collection.

The Saturn was sort of a blotch-job as it had 3D added in very late in the game. The hardware design of the console was so difficult that developers had a hard time using it properly.

A lot of people talked bad about the Saturn and said Sony's Playstation was much more superior. Well I ended up getting one of these grey Sony machines too and honesty compels me to say that indeed I played that even more. Still the Saturn is very dear to me still. Perhaps because it is somewhat of an underdog in the 32bit 3D console corner....

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Great post, Mason! A fantastic summary/overview.
Thanks for the work! Keep going!

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2D vs 3D
clok1966 wrote:

Saturn, I dont have the love most of you do, 3D was such an awosme thing on PC's at the time with the new dedicated cards, I knew consoles would have to join that. I really think the Saturn failed simply as they just upgraded the genesis (I know its not even close to that, but...) much like the gamecube... Some generations of game consoles take a leap ahead, and wome console makers get left behind... 3D was the Saturns downfall, it did 2D great, but 2D was dying.

I think that is where a great deal of the disconnect is among gamers. I really love 2D games.. particularly shoot'em ups.. I love top down (Ultima Style) adventures.. I love hand drawn pixel art. I really thought the Playstation was kind of a step back because they could "phone it in" as far as the graphics were concerned.. i.e. do a wireframe model and let the renderer sort it out... and many of the early 3D games just controlled badly..

For instance, when I first bought the Playstation, I remember the guy saying I had to have Resident Evil because it was the best thing since sliced bread. When I got home and fired it up I was expecting to be awed.. instead I just felt cheated... Odd viewing angles, disjointed gameplay, awkward cut seens, bad graphics, derivative story, and the characters controlled like a tank. :-)

Dunno, I just felt the early 3D systems where technology for technologies sake.. it just didn't feel like they had sorted everything out yet.. which in retrospect, they hadn't.

BTW: I love the later Resident Evils.. but I am in no way nostalgic for the early games.

-Chip

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I have to go with the Jag

I have to go with the Jag (atari) it has a couple of the BEST games out (at the time it was released) IMHO. The problem is it had wo many games that looked like they where on systems for 3-4 years before it.

Iron Soldier- was the best MECH game around, it got the lumbering War Machine thing down very well. You felt like you had an Unstopable Mech, but if overwhelmed you would eventally lose.

Alien Vs Predator- This game should get WAY more credit then it does. IMHO its the ORIGINAL Survival Horror game. Limited ammo, slow turning so all movement had to be thought out. traps, jump out spots.. all 2 years before Resident Evil came out. The duct crawling was so edge of your seat. The ALIEN areas with the the wierd organic walls that an Aline could pop out of at any time. Not to mention the thrill of playing the alien, killing machine up close, but fragile. The egg laying "extra" life play mechanic was brilliant. The Predator was sadly way to overpowered in the game, thankfully they start him with basic equipment and he has to find it and Upgrade.. Once he has all his stuff, he is unstopable (and a bit to easy unless being godmode is your thing). I can honestly say I have never JUMPED as much and felt as much "fear" so to speak in any game ever.

TEMPEST 2000- Quite possibley my favorite all time console title. its just so fun of an update. But the original Tempest was one of the two games I master in my youth (pacman was the other) I may be biased.

Unforntatly, that is where it ends somewhat. A few Fighting games that didnt stand out, MANY MANY subpar gaems that could have done on much older harware. The CD "TOLIET" addon with way to few games (that all loooked like any other game). The VR googles that never showed up. The HARDWARE was actualy not bad, and no where near as bad as it was made out to be. It just was simply made by ATARI who was a flaming wreck at the time. Nobody wanted to develop for what most thouhgt was going to be another failed console. The good titles where GREAT, the bad titles where everywhere. I have a game mag with "comming soon" for the JAG, and there are more games on that one list "comming" than where ver released (not counting the ones on that list that where released). Like 80 games released, and about 100+ unreleased.

Saturn, I dont have the love most of you do, 3D was such an awosme thing on PC's at the time with the new dedicated cards, I knew consoles would have to join that. I really think the Saturn failed simply as they just upgraded the genesis (I know its not even close to that, but...) much like the gamecube... Some generations of game consoles take a leap ahead, and wome console makers get left behind... 3D was the Saturns downfall, it did 2D great, but 2D was dying. This gen is motion control, Wii had it , the rest are playing catch up. I DONT think motion control is going to keep the Wii alive, but it was the seller for this gen of consoles. Sadly the DREAMCAST is really the one console (IMHO) that was ahead of its time in so many ways, ONLINE (standard now), PC in a console case (very lose translation) consoles are less about special chips and more about Brute power nowdays (and use many PC parts, video card chips, etc).. Alot fo games made today, could be put ont he DREAMCAST, at a much lower res I will admit, but I bet many could be ported... not all, in fact alot couldnt, but many could. Now I wanna dig my Satrun and Jag/Dreamcast out and play um.....

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