Monroeworld forums closed again

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davyK
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Shane's had enough again...

"I'm sick and tired of the crap that has invaded these forums. Things are going to change - and when they do, the forums will reopen. Until then - the pain in the ass complainers, drama lovers, trolls and other undesirables will need to find another hole to squat in - because it won't be here. Enjoy your sabbatical."

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I went ahead and locked the

I went ahead and locked the comments on this thread; hopefully that will put an end to it. I'm sure you guys can sit tight until Shane re-opens his forums for you.

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Bill Loguidice
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Collateral damage
Matt Barton wrote:

Boy, is that the truth. I wished Shane had warned us he was shutting them down, so we could shut ours down, too. It greatly angers me that people I thought were "friends" abandoned us long ago and re-surface now just to bitch and moan because Shane told them to go home.
Frankly, if your only reason for being here is to discuss a moderator at another forum, please go elsewhere. I don't want to see it here.

I certainly understand that sentiment, but it's not Shane's job to worry about anyone else, even us. On the flipside, it's not our job to filter out the negative comments directed towards him when he blows things up on occasion. It works both ways.

Honestly, we're all after the same goals - to inform and entertain in videogames, computers, technology, and issues, with a fondness for the "classic". There's always room for everyone who's already there, and for new ones to be added to the mix all the time. It's definitely draining when negativity of any form reaches too high of a level.

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Exactly
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Certainly on one level it's flattering that people always come here when Shane shuts things down, but honestly, on another level, it kind of makes me mad that we're always the ones being used. People come here and bitch until things are back up over there, then never post here again.

Boy, is that the truth. I wished Shane had warned us he was shutting them down, so we could shut ours down, too. It greatly angers me that people I thought were "friends" abandoned us long ago and re-surface now just to bitch and moan because Shane told them to go home.

Frankly, if you're only reason for being here is to discuss a moderator at another forum, please go elsewhere. I don't want to see it here.

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Monroeworld forum closing (again)
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The last time (2004) the forum stayed open, but all the gaming related posts were removed which is what caused a lot of issues for me. This time Shane simply locked the forums for a day (to cool off I guess) and make some modifications to the rules.

Good to see you again, Number6. I recall the first RGR forum closing seeming to come from out of the blue, with some very unexpected and somewhat bizarre explanations. I don't recall any major flame wars, and the discussions were generally fun, informative, respectful, and full of camraderie. But the gist of the explanation for closing the forum was a) the forum ops (Shane and Brian) felt that they had to be increasingly tyrannical to maintain the forum rules and goals, which made them uncomfortable, and b) the forums were UNDERCUTTING the RGR show!

For example, Shane said (if I recall correctly) that he wanted to review certain products on his show, but member(s) on the forum had beaten him to the punch and posted reviews on the forum. This hit close to home for me, since I had posted a review of the then-new "TV Games: Pacman" game (which was junk), and I thought for sure that we'd hear his take on the RGR show. I thought I was contributing to the forum, only to find out later that perhaps I was in fact part of the reason for its DEMISE!

Needless to say, I still enjoy Shane's radio show(s), but never felt comfortable returning to the forum after that, even though I didn't really do anything wrong. No sense in posting anything if I'm a nuisance.

For the record, the RGR forum was the first time I ever posted on a WEB forum (as opposed to a BBS or Usenet forum), and the first time I ever posted under an "alias," because it seemed everyone else was using one. As you can see, I still post under the same alias. :-)

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I personally can understand Shane's frustrations this time around and all I could do was smile when I saw the forums were locked yesterday. I will admit I was worried this was the end possibly, but I have been through all of this before so I know what is giveth can be taken away.

It strikes me as a cruel thing to do to your "good" members, especially if they don't know if they were the "good" members or the "bad" members in Shane's eyes. I think a better way to handle it is to post a message saying "Look, things are getting out of hand, this is not what we're all about, this is the way things should go, " .... etc. To just pull the plug without warning comes across as an in-your-face middle finger to his "good" members, which I assume comprises the vast majority of the forum.

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It's a shame that some members who don't like the forum are trying to bring it down for the rest of us. If the forum does go away in the future I think I am pretty much done with participating in online communities. (.........) I think I have pretty much discussed all I wanted to online anyway at this point. Now I am simply chatting with friends on Monroeworld which is also very fulfilling and I will miss that when it eventually goes away.

I pretty much feel the same way.... I've generally said all I can say, and I don't have the energy to post much anymore. I still read the forums, though, and still partake of the various sites and videos (and the internet radio shows).

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Certainly on one level it's

Certainly on one level it's flattering that people always come here when Shane shuts things down, but honestly, on another level, it kind of makes me mad that we're always the ones being used. People come here and bitch until things are back up over there, then never post here again.

With all that in mind, as a separate thought, my feelings for Shane remain the same--I consider him a friend as much as a person can be that you've never met and I continue to support him. I think the sentiment is mutual. I just hate being caught in the middle when things temporarily go bad.

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I remember the last time...

The last time (2004) the forum stayed open, but all the gaming related posts were removed which is what caused a lot of issues for me. This time Shane simply locked the forums for a day (to cool off I guess) and make some modifications to the rules.

I personally can understand Shane's frustrations this time around and all I could do was smile when I saw the forums were locked yesterday. I will admit I was worried this was the end possibly, but I have been through all of this before so I know what is giveth can be taken away.

It's a shame that some members who don't like the forum are trying to bring it down for the rest of us. If the forum does go away in the future I think I am pretty much done with participating in online communities. I have really enoyed the last 12 years of discussing games on various forums, but I have settled down to simply posting on Monroeworld (under the name "entexman"). Once the Monroeworld forum closes for good I will simply use other forums for informational purposes. I think I have pretty much discussed all I wanted to online anyway at this point. Now I am simply chatting with friends on Monroeworld which is also very fulfilling and I will miss that when it eventually goes away.

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Yeah, the new rules sound

Yeah, the new rules sound reasonable.

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Rob Daviau
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Seems to be back up.....now

Seems to be back up.....now to check it out.............

Shane R. Monroe

Global Announcement

New Forum Rules Are In Effect

All users are responsible for re-reading the new site rules, posted under the FAQ section.

Ignorance of these rules will be no excuse if disciplinary action occurs as a result of their violation.
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Welcome Back!

Welcome back from that short break. We've made some changes, so here are a few notes you'll want to be aware of:

-The forum rules have been updated. You'll want to read them prior to posting, as there have been some changes you'll want to read up on.

-Moving forward, the forums will be moderated in a manner that is a lot less "loose" than it was before. Infractions will be issued, and posts that violate the rules will be removed. Once again, read the rules and use some common sense.

-The profanity filter has been lifted, however, please don't abuse this. Once again, common sense goes a long way.

-Some content that was inconsistent with our vision for the forums (and in violation of the revised rules) has been removed, including but not limited to the removal of the Flames and Fanboys section and everything in it. Posts containing flaming and/or fanboy bickering will be removed anyway, so there is no need for that section anymore.

-Please don't bother writing "I'm leaving the forums forever" threads or posts. We've heard it before, the ones who've really left never left a note and the ones who do leave a note always end up coming back. "I'm leaving..." posts will be removed.

For those looking to be a part of a friendly, helpful, and thriving community, welcome back. We may lose a few members who don't know how to express themselves without attitude, whining, or other socially dysfunctional behavior, but it's the only way we'll ever get back to making this a place we all enjoy visiting and contributing to.

Thanks,

The MonroeWorld Staff

PS: This thread is closed, as we're not soliciting feedback on this matter at this time.

Last edited by alexjlopez; Today at 05:57 AM.

SOUNDS GOOD TO ME AND PRETTY MUCH WHAT I ELUDED TO IN MY ORIGINAL POST SHOULD BE DONE.

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I'm not sure what that

I'm not sure what that "concept" is. Shane has a show where he rants about the world we live in now we can't discuss "controversial" subjects in the forum. The source of the problem was drama, complaining, and passive aggression from spiteful members who took the site for granted. There is little mention of this behavior in the new site rules. Just "politics" and "religion". It makes no sense.

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No worries, I'm sure
TripHamer wrote:

From reading the only comment on the site, it sounds like he got upset and will probably be back up in a little while. He's probably too "vested" at this point to call it quits.

I'm sure just like the last time he won't call it quits. It's probably just a very aggressive tactic that he's used before to weed out those not truly into the whole MW concept and also to demonstrate who's really in charge (and also, certainly to a degree, to show people what they'd miss by him taking it all away). After a cooling off period I'm sure he'll reopen the forums, a good portion of the regulars will return, and he'll slowly build up a new (and again, slightly different) forum audience again. If it doesn't sit well with someone that this keeps happening, I'm sure they'll stay away, but I think most of his audience has sufficient enthusiasm that it will be hard to turn them away in any noticeable numbers.

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