Commodore 65 on eBay!

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Bill Loguidice
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In the land of cool Super 8-bits, there are two really intriguing systems that never made it to market, the TI-99/8 and the Commodore 65. Check out this C-65 on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=330387963783&Category...

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I agree about the C-128

I agree about the C-128 being under-appreciated. The IIGS still would have been better, but certainly not cheaper than the C65 (and frankly, I don't think it's fair to call the IIGS an 8-bit in any way--it's more of a competitor to the Amiga and ST). I think one of the issues with the C-65 was the amount of resources required to render those 256 colors. I'm not sure of the details, though. By the time it would have come out, it would have already been far too late. In lieu of the C-128, perhaps, but not in the 90s.

All I've seen produced for the C-65 are graphics demos, including a very well done photo of a nude woman. I'm not sure where I saw that though, though certainly one of the many Commodore sites out there must have all the screenshots, and it was one of those where I saw it.

Technically, if the Color Computer 3 didn't have single channel sound and possibly purposely crippled graphics, it would have hands-down been the best super 8-bit. It's arguable that like Apple almost wanted the IIGS to fail in favor of the Macintosh, Tandy wanted the CoCo 3 to fail in favor of the Tandy 1000 series.

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Commodore 65 could have been an Apple IIGS killer??

I've never heard of the Commodore 65 before, but after reading this, I checked out the Ebay ad, then I went to the Wikipedia page for it. What an intriguing machine. It may well be the most intriguing, if not THE BEST, 8-bit computer ever produced. And it technically WAS produced, albeit in very small quantities.

The specs on this machine sound very impressive: 256 on-screen colors out of a palette of 4096, stereo sound provided by two on-board SID chips, 128k RAM expandable to 8MB, stock 3.5 floppy drive(?), a CPU running at up to 3.54mhz, and graphics resolutions at up to 1280 x 400. Plus, C-64 backwards compatibility!

It sounds like a killer machine! I'd have bought this easily over the Apple IIGS!

Alas, the C65 wasn't meant to be..... was there ever any software developed at all demonstrating the power(s) of this machine? Even a demo, maybe?

I still say the Commodore 128 was a vastly under-appreciated computer.

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Yeah, like a lot of vintage

Yeah, like a lot of vintage computer items, the prices have shot up dramatically over the years. Stuff well under $1000 now easily sells in the thousands. That's the way it is as the Internet has allowed the expansion of the audience for, well, everything.

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keyboard

It was some sort of cross between the keyboard of a 128 and a c64c - the keys made a similar noise.
The spacebar was crooked on the C65 I laid my hands on though - it wouldn't register all presses.
The one I touched back then was for sale as well 750,- guilders which would be 341 euros today. Of course I didn't have the money back then as I was still a student.

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Cool, Mark!
Mark Vergeer wrote:

Great stuff but won't buy it ever - no software ;)

I've seen one in action before though - for real. Actually typed on one and loaded a program from disc. Still cool to have though....

You're very lucky. I'd love to see and touch one live. That, the TI-99/8 and the Mattel Keyboard Component are probably the three I'd like to handle. I've been lucky in that I've been able to acquire everything else that's interested me (save for a switch-based S-100 system, like an IMSAI, though I don't think that's out of my eventual reach).

So what was the keyboard like on the C65 if you remember? Did it feel like a C64c keyboard, or did it feel nicer? Commodore never did great with their keyboards. Apple was always the consistently best with that.

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wow - won't buy it though

Great stuff but won't buy it ever - no software ;)

I've seen one in action before though - for real. Actually typed on one and loaded a program from disc. Still cool to have though....

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