Matt Chat 39: World of Warcraft MMORPG Double Feature

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Hi, guys. I'm back this week with my first two-parter. The first part offers a brief glimpse of pre-WoW MMOs, including muds, Forgotten World (Neverwinter Nights Online), Meridian 59, Everquest, and of course lots of WoW footage. The second part is a "live" recording of my friend Max Shelton and I doing a short quest and discussing the game. Enjoy!

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Mark Vergeer wrote:

I am so reluctant to try it because the setup/download patch procedure is just horrendous and then there is the fact that you really need to invest an awful lot of time in this game in order to enjoy it.

The setup and download isn't too bad... it's usually the worst when you're far enough from the last expansion that it takes awhile to download the latest incremental patch. It's a one time thing, though.

As for "needing to invest a lot of time in order to enjoy it", if that was a fact, nobody would play WoW at all! In truth, what makes WoW so good is it's starting game. Leveling up from level one has a satisfactory feeling of accomplishment that carries you for quite a few levels. In the old days, it petered out around level 20 and got really slow, but since they flattened the leveling cap, it's been consistently good. Actually, the worst issue for starting players is probably the crowds and griefers of the opposing faction who have nothing better to do than slaughter quest-NPC's in the starting zones.

Now, if all you care about is hardcore PvP or raiding, then yes, you do have to level a character to 80 before you can really experience that. I only have one level 80 myself because I find both those activities boring and pointless. Before the last expansion, you could do a little Battlegrounds (PvP) grinding and get some decent epic gear for almost no time investment, but the latest expansion made it so HOURS of grinding is necessary, so I don't even bother anymore.

Mark Vergeer wrote:

I tend to be rather picky how I spend my time. It's just too steep a threshold for me and my time is too precious to waste on WOW :(

Now that I can agree with. Any MMO is definitely a "consumptive" activity, you won't be writing or creating things while you're gaming. And if you have a wife and children too, well, gaming has to come third. It BETTER come third. :)

Adam

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Get World of Warcraft for $5 -- Weekend Special

Blizzard Special. Sorry I posted this just now; I guess it's the last day of the special. It's a great deal if you ever think you might want to play! If you want to play with me, make sure to sign up with a horde character on the Uther server.

I've long given up on convincing Bill or Mark to check it out. It's a big disappointment, but life goes on. I'm lucky to have other friends to play with!

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Wow! The views on this video

Wow! The views on this video are through the roof! I was looking at the "Insight" data today, and it appears that I have a spike now that dwarfs my previous "biggest hit" Planescape: Torment. As far as I've been able to tell, the hits are coming from people doing YouTube searches for "World of Warcraft." No telling how many of them will stay, but exciting, nonetheless. I took the precaution of switching the comments to approval mode to avoid any obscene or trolling posts there.

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I probably should play WoW more

... but because I stubbornly refuse to run Windows at home in favor of Linux, I won't be playing it much anytime soon.

I've probably played WoW for a grand total of 2 hours max. My wife plays it every day, however. It is visually impressive.

I'm not much into modern online gaming (except for Fight Night Round 4). I'm such a stickler for nostalgia that I just have immediate contempt for any game that was made after 1990 or so. Gaming with blocky pixels and 8 bit graphics is pure bliss for me.

Occasionally, I will telnet from my Commodore 64 to a MUD. Yes, I'm actually able to connect to the 'real' internet on that machine thanks to the MMC Replay + RR Net cartridge. While the WWW doesn't work all that well, I can simulate 80 columns and use telnet.

I really liked the first few minutes of this video. Matt mentioned that the original Neverwinter Nights can still be played online. Does anyone have a link for that?

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Neverwinter Nights is

Neverwinter Nights is re-imagined as "Forgotten World" hitfan: http://www.forgottenworld.com/

I have to get around to trying that myself, as I played the original back in the day on AOL (and naturally the Gold Box games themselves), though always under pressure of the "clock".

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How is it "wasting time" if

How is it "wasting time" if you enjoy it? I only consider time "wasted" if I'm being forced to do something boring and useless like waiting in line or being stuck in traffic. I do agree 100% though, the installation procedure takes a long time to download and update. My guess is that it would take at least 2 hours to get this thing installed from scratch. Of course, you don't have to stick around the computer during that time, since it's automatic for the most part. Blizzard isn't the only MMO that does this (they all seem to do it!!), but why the heck don't they pre-patch their installers? Just doesn't make sense to me.

On a side note, Elizabeth (my wife) has started to play after the $5 deal. I'm not getting my hopes up to high that she'll stay with it, but she seems to be really enjoying it so far. She pipes up each time she levels to let me know. :)

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There's no doubt about it,

There's no doubt about it, "Part Two" of this show is my biggest episode ever, with over 2.5 thousand views in one day! (By contrast, most shows get max 150 views per day and slack off after that). 85% of those hits are coming from Youtube's search engine. Conclusion? Obviously, doing a show on something that is still actively played will get a lot more views than doing older stuff. I'm thinking in order to build up the show, I should at least do a modern game every so often, preferably with good history such as Dragon Age Origins or Metroid Trilogy. I could probably triple or quadruple my audience by focusing on the history of the most recent games.

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Dragon Age is a GREAT idea!
Matt Barton wrote:

I'm thinking in order to build up the show, I should at least do a modern game every so often, preferably with good history such as Dragon Age Origins or Metroid Trilogy. I could probably triple or quadruple my audience by focusing on the history of the most recent games.

There's no better game at the moment than "Dragon Age: Origins" for a Matt Chat episode. It's current, yet has a great history behind it. It's totally up your alley, and if it wasn't for the alleged EXTREME copy protection system, I'd have already bought it. Well, that's besides the point; it's a hit game, it's totally MATT CHAT, and you know how to cover this sort of game.

I'm not saying you have to cover it NEXT WEEK, but if there ever was a game begging to be covered in a Matt Chat, it's this one! It has the potential to really get some massive views!

At the very same time, it gives you the opportunity to cover the history of such games, and tell the young 'uns where this all comes from, where WE come from, and who WE are.

It would also be an excellent place to subtlety, briefly, plug your book! :-) And that's something I've noticed you haven't done recently.

Rock on, Matt!

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