Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Destroys Records

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Bill Loguidice
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http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2009/11/13/2009-11-13_video_game_blitz....

4.7 million copies and $310 million JUST in North America and UK in ONE day. Impressive!

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* and the real soldiers are

* and the real soldiers are the best-behaved players. (Ever had a friend who joined the Marines and came back calling everyone Sir and Ma'am? I did)

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The Onion video is great! I

The Onion video is great!

I sometimes wonder what veterans think of videogames. Certainly today's soldiers like them - they are 19 year old kids like any others - when I used to play SOCOM II online, real life soldiers would play sometimes.

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That Onion video is

That Onion video is hilarious and dead-on.

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War, what is it good for?

Catatonic said: I've played & enjoyed several Call of Duty games. I guess it's relatively realistic, for an action game, but you still have to personally kill a hell of a lot of people. A truly realistic war game would have to be incredibly boring, no fun at all.

I suppose it's a bit easier to simulate that with squad-based games, like Rainbow Six: Black Arrow, or even as far back as the original Castle Wolfenstein, or the SSI classic TBS game, Computer Ambush. For all out war, it probably makes sense to give in to the action-based needs of videogames and have lots of killing.

Ultra-Realistic Modern Warfare Game Features Awaiting Orders, Repairing Trucks

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That's true. From what I've

That's true. From what I've gathered from veterans, 99% of it is just standing around doing nothing (and I'm sure the endless anxious waiting has to be terrible).

I was reading something interesting today about this game: Modern Warfare 2's Misunderstood Terrorist Level. I must admit, it sounds pretty interesting what they tried to do, even if it didn't succeed (in the eyes of that author, anyway). I appreciate a developer who's willing to take some risks.

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I've played & enjoyed

I've played & enjoyed several Call of Duty games. I guess it's relatively realistic, for an action game, but you still have to personally kill a hell of a lot of people. A truly realistic war game would have to be incredibly boring, no fun at all.

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I think they can take things

I think they can take things a bit too far with the one-bullet kill type games. I know I've become overly frustrated with Rainbow 6 for that very reason. Some of the levels are just so hard that it seems the only way to beat them is to replay them enough times until you have all the enemy locations memorized and can just snipe them as soon as they activate. I like the way the COD games handle that--if you can get to cover quickly enough, you automatically heal. I know it's not as realistic as something like R6, but it's more fun. I haven't played any of the most recent Rainbow 6 type games, so I don't know what (if any) changes they've made to the formula, but I dislike having to play the same silly level (with that irritating 2 save game slot limitation) 10-15 times just to get through it.

P.S. I know there's a rookie or easy mode, but I foolishly selected "veteran" and apparently would have to restart the whole game to play at an easier level Sigh.

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FPS War games vs. Fun FPS's
Bill Loguidice wrote:

I don't know if I agree with that. If you play the Call of Duty games or the Rainbow Six games or any of the other quality FPS war games, you're very human in game terms as far as I'm concerned. The "super solider" ones like Halo and Gears of War and similar ilk (Wolfenstein) are very different beasts as far as I'm concerned.

I agree, the Call of Duty or Tom Clancy games are generally a very different feel from games like Halo and such. They FEEL different, because they make you feel like you're an actual, real soldier that can often be taken out in one shot. They also give you a sense of admiration for the heroes that actually put their lives on the line, and they give you a sense of history or real-world politics as well.

Halo is fun, but the better FPS war games really do convey the sense that war is Hell, and that you really don't want to start one.

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War games versus future super soliders
Catatonic wrote:

If games want to be like movies, they need to hire editors who can trim out the fat & leave an impression at the end. e.g. in a war game, you should feel like you've been through a war... instead, we get games where you are a superhuman killing machine.. anyway I am digressing.

I don't know if I agree with that. If you play the Call of Duty games or the Rainbow Six games or any of the other quality FPS war games, you're very human in game terms as far as I'm concerned. The "super solider" ones like Halo and Gears of War and similar ilk (Wolfenstein) are very different beasts as far as I'm concerned.

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If games want to be like

If games want to be like movies, they need to hire editors who can trim out the fat & leave an impression at the end. e.g. in a war game, you should feel like you've been through a war... instead, we get games where you are a superhuman killing machine.. anyway I am digressing.

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