Okay I broke - I got myself a PS3

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Mark Vergeer
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Playstation 2: Playstation 2 32x32 pixels updated I just got myself a PS3 for the reduced price of 299,00 euros which was allright. Can't believe how small the system actually is. And quiet! Wow amazing when you compare it to the xbox 360's fans roaring away. I got it with three games: Motor Storm, Soul Calibur IV and MotorStorm Pacific Rift.

Hey I didn't make a PS3 icon yet....have to make me one. ;-)

How did this all come about? Well last week I was enjoying my Dreamcast and played a lot of Metropolis Street Racer. I also have the follow ups to that : Project Gotham Racing 1 and 2 on the original xbox and parts 3 and 4 on the 360. I decided to post two videos on PGR1 and 2 on Youtube which were watched an amazing number of times. It even persuaded some hardcore sony playstation users to move over to 'the dark side' and get xboxes. I've been putting off buying a PS3 for years - mostly because I just hated Sony removing the PS2 backwardscompatibility but today I caved in and got myself a PS3 today....

PRG review

PRG 2 review

Steve Benway's response....

My response....

Oh yeah and you should watch Steve's response to that.... hilarious!

And the video of me showing the PS3 - the sheer guilt made me get one ;-)

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Relative Noise
Mark Vergeer wrote:

Thanks Clok1966 for your lenghty reply! It contained some good suggestions as well.

I have to agree with Bill on his advantages and disadvantages for both the 360 and the PS3. I'd like to add a couple of comments:
- NetFlix is US only, in European 360 interfaces you won't find anything similar....
- the 360 has the most horrendous loud fan, contrary to the whisperquiet PS3

the latter is a big thing for me as I hate pointless noise it just irks me.

That also varies by model on both the 360 and PS3, though. For instance, my PS3 (the BC 60GB), actually gets very hot fairly quickly, and the fan spins up. It's still not as loud as the 360, even with the firmware updates, though. I'm sure the PS3 slim is very quiet in comparison to everything.

I have all three of my current consoles in the same wall unit, and there's some open air circulation, but they really could use more. I'll have to take a picture of the mediocre placement at some point.

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Thanks Clok1966 for your lenghty reply!

Thanks Clok1966 for your lenghty reply! It contained some good suggestions as well.

I have to agree with Bill on his advantages and disadvantages for both the 360 and the PS3. I'd like to add a couple of comments:
- NetFlix is US only, in European 360 interfaces you won't find anything similar....
- the 360 has the most horrendous loud fan, contrary to the whisperquiet PS3

the latter is a big thing for me as I hate pointless noise it just irks me.

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Wow!
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PS3: MarkVergeer | Xbox 360: Lactobacillus P | Wii: 8151 3435 8469 3138
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Really? Is there an official explanation from Sony for this? Seems like an odd thing to do after they encouraged it.

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New system update also removes Linux on PS3 Phat older models :(

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Rowdy Rob wrote:
Bill Loguidice wrote:

PS3 Advantages:
- Free online
- BluRay movies
- Tight integration with the PSP
- Ability to run Linux, making the PS3 a computer too

The new PS3 Slims remove the ability to run Linux, and backwards PS2 compatibility. Here's an article for those in the dark about it:

http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/brian-proffitt/41700:ps3-slim-r...

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Indeed. That's why I *still* recommend for the serious gamer to track down a used 60GB PS3 model, because you get the full hardware backwards compatibility and every other feature that may or may not be included in later revisions (it seems each new iteration loses something in the original maxed out spec). They've actually been selling for reasonable prices on eBay thanks to the Slim.

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Matt Barton wrote:

I was reading on this earlier and someone docked the 360 because so many of the games end up on PC eventually anyway. At least with the Wii you get exclusives that will probably never show up on PC in any official sense. For me, it was worth the price of admission for the Zelda, Mario, and Metroid games. Again, I'm murky on the PS3 side of things.

Well, the Xbox 360, PS3 and a good PC/Mac have similar gameplaying feature-sets. The difference is if you don't have a beefy PC, you're not going to get the same experience you'd get on a stock Xbox 360 or PS3 on an HDTV. That's always the advantage of a console, buy one and you're set for the life of the system. If you'd rather invest in PC tech and upgrading and/or buying a new system after a period of time, then there's no specific advantage to an Xbox 360/PS3 other than maybe getting a hot game sooner.

Yeah, you pretty much would get the Wii for the Nintendo first party stuff and stuff that can only be done with its specialized controls. You'd also get a Wii for the Virtual Console if you're into that sort of thing. It's no mystery what each platform offers and is good at. I have all three and don't feel there's any redundancy whatsoever.

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PS3 and Linux
Bill Loguidice wrote:

PS3 Advantages:
- Free online
- BluRay movies
- Tight integration with the PSP
- Ability to run Linux, making the PS3 a computer too

The new PS3 Slims remove the ability to run Linux, and backwards PS2 compatibility. Here's an article for those in the dark about it:

http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/brian-proffitt/41700:ps3-slim-r...

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I was reading on this

I was reading on this earlier and someone docked the 360 because so many of the games end up on PC eventually anyway. At least with the Wii you get exclusives that will probably never show up on PC in any official sense. For me, it was worth the price of admission for the Zelda, Mario, and Metroid games. Again, I'm murky on the PS3 side of things.

As always, though, if I had the disposable income I'd of course have all the systems and probably get a kick out of all of them. I think the 360's online stuff is very, very compelling, though I might get in there, discover it's mostly kids and ingrates, and feel disgusted. At least that's how I end up feeling about most online games these days (yeah, becoming a jaded old curmudgeon I know).

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Best for a PC Gamer? - tough call...
Matt Barton wrote:

Would you say that a 360 is the best choice for a PC gamer looking to get into consoles? It seems the safest bet to me. I don't know much about the PS3's lineup, but the Wii and from what I've seen of the PS3 indicates that a larger part of the software is Japanese in origin, which may be an issue for PC gamers.

Possibly. The 360 has superb FPS and competent RTS games, but I don't necessarily know if either platform is a "better" choice for a PC enthusiast. I mean, both have nearly the same types of games that you find on a PC, including the classic style adventure games (even the Wii has those, though).

360 Advantages:
- Controls
- Xbox Live (though you have to pay about $40 for it every 13 months)/Xbox Live Arcade/Achievements/Gamerscore
- Netflix (free if you have a Netflix account)
- Nearly universal demos
- Massively multiplayer party games, like 1 vs 100 (presently free for XBL Gold subscribers)

PS3 Advantages:
- Free online
- BluRay movies
- Tight integration with the PSP
- Ability to run Linux, making the PS3 a computer too

At least that's the way *I* see it break down. Obviously the Xbox 360 has many more games available, but that's mostly due to it being out longer. It's mostly a wash in terms of QUALITY games available, either retail or download.

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Would you say that a 360 is

Would you say that a 360 is the best choice for a PC gamer looking to get into consoles? It seems the safest bet to me. I don't know much about the PS3's lineup, but the Wii and from what I've seen of the PS3 indicates that a larger part of the software is Japanese in origin, which may be an issue for PC gamers.

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