DRM Content protection shite....

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Mark Vergeer
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Big Brain: Big Brain 64x64 pixels Apple tells me that there's interesting content in the apple store so I want to check it out....some new stuff about Robin Williams ha that's cool he's always good for a good laugh or two. Ok click on the link and the iTunes application - ah an upgrade to version 9 - starts up. Excitement grows I even blink more rapidly in anticipation....
but alas I've yet again fallen for the juicy carrot that was held dangling in front of my face only to find it yanked away.....

DRM Content protection Shite
a disappointed Dutch iTunes user....

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sorry for hijack.. excellent

sorry for hijack.. excellent to see others liked Blake 7, normally when i mention it i get blank stares. NO love for Star Lost? (very little known show) :) Did you know blakes 7 was created by the fellow who created the Dalaks in Dr WHO? Incidently, DR Who (the new stuff) is pretty dang good.. but I must admit i prefered COBRA COMMANDER as Dr WHO...

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Blake's 7

Immediately got the series when it became available on DVD. Excellent stuff. Orac, Zen, Blake, Dillon, Jenna.....

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clok1966 wrote:

As a child of the 80's and also living 6 miles form the canadian border (and dateing a girl from there in High school) I think this was great (at least back then)! This rule created BOB & DOUG (Strange Brew may just be the single greatest movie of the 80's) Greatness of TV show in link. They where created since SCTV had to show a segment that was canadian, so originaly they where an over the top joke to "conform".

Agreed, SCTV is one of the funniest shows ever made.

These days, CBC relies on foreign produced shows -- USA (Jeopardy, Wheel of Fortune), Ireland (The Tudors), UK (Coronation Street, Doctor Who, Antiques Roadshow) And unlike the BBC we have commercials.

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Blakes 7 - Great Show
clok1966 wrote:

and Blakes 7 (english, but again wonderfull but cheezy).

Cheezy? Heck, no! This is my favorite sci-fi show of all time. The characters and stories on this show were simply amazing...Who could forget Avon and Vila? Heck, even their ship's computer had more personality than many human characters in other shows. What I loved about it was like watching a role-playing game. You never knew what they would discover to give them an edge against their enemies--or even who their enemies were. I always thought it'd make a fantastic CRPG. I recently went back and re-watched the entire series and loved every minute of it.

I just found this pic on Wikipedia of the cast in 2004. There's of course Vila, Terrant, and Avon schmoozing up to Servalan! This has Blake in it, though sadly he doesn't appear to have aged nearly as well.

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canadian requirments
Catatonic wrote:

We have this in Canada - radio & TV stations have to show a certain amount of the dreaded "Canadian content". This is why you can flip on channels like BBC Canada and they are showing re-runs of old Canadian shows!

As a child of the 80's and also living 6 miles form the canadian border (and dateing a girl from there in High school) I think this was great (at least back then)! This rule created BOB & DOUG (Strange Brew may just be the single greatest movie of the 80's) Greatness of TV show in link. They where created since SCTV had to show a segment that was canadian, so originaly they where an over the top joke to "conform".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsgVspgy184
Also some of the best music in the 80's (that most of the rest of the world will never hear) was canadian. Streetheart, Helix, Harlaquin, Headpins, CHiliwak, Trooper, Toronto, ... I could go on and on there are so many more (and yes I know some of you may know the music, but most do not)..

Not really releated but.. the canadian stations also ran some great SCI-FI in those days.. Star Lost was pretty strange and good, and Blakes 7 (english, but again wonderfull but cheezy).

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Mark Vergeer wrote:

Oh by the way France with the Francophone law that 20% of music on French radio must be French is rather eccentric when it comes to Europe.

We have this in Canada - radio & TV stations have to show a certain amount of the dreaded "Canadian content". This is why you can flip on channels like BBC Canada and they are showing re-runs of old Canadian shows! And the movie channels are forced to show a certain number of Canadian movies that nobody watches. (At least in English -- French Canadian movies are actually quite popular but if you never go to Quebec you can live your whole life in Canada and never hear anybody speak French)

Our cable & satellite companies also substitute the American channels with Canadian channels when they are showing the same program, so that we see Canadian commercials - this annoys the hell out of people during the Super Bowl

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hmprffff

Catatonic: "Out of curiosity, what were you trying to view? The situation in Canada used to be really bad, but after a while we got almost all the same music and probably most of the movies. (We can rent movies for 48 hours, I think in the USA you can only watch for 24 hours.)"

When you type in www.apple.com on the bottom right part the following is displayed:
Apple startpage (global) with Itune adverts being not global at all
I clicked on the Robin Williams link. Now I am a well educated person - financially sound and reasonably good mannered - but this type of thing really pisses me off. Why?
Because Apple hereby - probably unwillingly and ignorantly - teases the hell out of its global consumers who do click on the links for the iTune store. It's like walking around a Wall-Mart with a full wad of money but the cash register not accepting your clean crisp dollar bills....

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Europa....
Matt Barton wrote:

Maybe it's mostly just politics here. Some third world "leader" trying to extort some unfair provisions or whatever, then refusing to play fair or let piracy run rampant. I think there's also quite a bit of resistance in some parts of Europe to American products in general, since they want Europeans to prefer "their own" stuff (thinking of French TV here). Even in the U.S., copyright law is a huge sprawling mess, with most serious issues having to be settled in court. Reform is desperately needed, but severely unlikely given the prominent role of the media in elections and campaigns.

Of course it's all just politics prohibiting free trade and transport of goods and people. Oh by the way France with the Francophone law that 20% of music on French radio must be French is rather eccentric when it comes to Europe. France is a great country but rather specific and not really the 'mean' of Europe. Sorry to say but your statement of 'Europeans preferring their own stuff' doesn't hold ground here.

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Maybe it's mostly just

Maybe it's mostly just politics here. Some third world "leader" trying to extort some unfair provisions or whatever, then refusing to play fair or let piracy run rampant. I think there's also quite a bit of resistance in some parts of Europe to American products in general, since they want Europeans to prefer "their own" stuff (thinking of French TV here). Even in the U.S., copyright law is a huge sprawling mess, with most serious issues having to be settled in court. Reform is desperately needed, but severely unlikely given the prominent role of the media in elections and campaigns.

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Paperwork....

Yeah it's all about legal stuff, taxes etc which of course makes implementation of a world wide market via the iTunes store more difficult. True free trade is impossible, keeping out third world countries from having a fair access to the market but also keeping western consumers away from content they are able and very willing to pay for. With this economic crisis - which is supposed to be almost over if you can believe Ben Bernecke - one would expect companies to want to expand their possible clientele. Well as things are going right now companies dealing with digital media are loosing out, companies like Game-Tap too - I was a happy member for a while until they janked the membership away. Because of some game-rights being world-wide they were able to expand the service to Europe, but when these rights /license perspired for some reason they had to pull the entire service. Quite incomprehensible to Joe-the user.

Then it's just the - to Joe consumer at least - blatant laziness of companies not willing to offer their services in smaller countries. Not clearly stating that a service or shop is only servicing a specific region and often consumers only finding out that they can't complete the purchase because this item is not available in their part of the world. For example, Microsoft has an extensive video rental thing going on - even in parts of Europe - but the Dutch market probably is too small for them to bother and our 360 media catalog only features some overpriced video-clips and episodes of ' The guild '. Microsoft Launched the 360 in Amsterdam for Pete's sake and at launch time stated that digital media / video rental capabilities would be added later. Well since the introduction of the 360 it's still an empty shell.

I am Dutch but I also have a French Live-account and when I am in my home in France I can log into the 360 purchase media items that I cannot purchase in the Netherlands. I can view them. The sheer fact that I can't purchase and/or view those items from the Netherlands is infuriating as in Europe there is supposed to be free traffic of persons and goods without restrictions. Well guess not when it comes to Microsoft.

Oh on Robin Williams,
Apple presented me with a photo clickable thing stating that there is a ' special deal on Robin Williams media in the Apple store ' and I wanted to check it out. So I am not even sure what I am missing out on....it's just that I like the zany humour of Robin Williams and I thought I could make a purchase.

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