Retro Gamer Magazine and GameRoom Magazine Cover our Vintage Games Book (comments and images)

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As previously mentioned, Retro Gamer magazine issue 65, and GameRoom magazine July 2009, covered our book, Vintage Games: An Insider Look at the History of Grand Theft Auto, Super Mario, and the Most Influential Games of All Time, available at booksellers worldwide, including Amazon.com. Well, my copies of each of the magazines came today, and I wanted to share some quick thoughts - including some low quality iPhone photos (to protect their IP naturally; buy your own copies - they're worth it!) - on the magazines.

First, Retro Gamer magazine issue 65. As may or may not be evident from the purposely low quality photo, the cover is absolutely gorgeous, with a shiny/glossy red cover. The insides are typical of Retro Gamer's high standards. In short, I'm STILL jealous of how amazing this magazine is and as I've professed before, it's how I wanted a print version of Armchair Arcade to have been when I was negotiating with publishers here in the US a few years back. Anyway, they only have a short blurb on the book, but it's the highest of praise.

Second, GameRoom magazine July 2009. It's the first time I've seen this magazine, though I've followed their blog since before it changed hands. They're quality people and it's a solid production with a home arcade slant (naturally). This one is actually a full page review, and, while highly critical of certain elements, is a decidedly positive one. I think the only area where the reviewer failed in his very thorough and fairly accurate evaluation of the book was in failing to point out more clearly that while each chapter centers around a particular game, it's not really just about the one game. One other failing is not pointing out the high production values in the book, which is something you don't really find in videogame books. Most people make a big fuss about the glossy color images in our book and with good reason. Otherwise, though, like I said, it was a fair review (and he has no way of knowing what of his criticisms were beyond our control) and like the Retro Gamer coverage, quite appreciated

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Matt Barton
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I, too, appreciate these

I, too, appreciate these reviews very much. But like I was saying to Bill, it's always important to point out the positives as well as the negatives of something you are reviewing. Both reviews highly recommend the book, but it's not clear in one why that is the case, since the author spends more time nitpicking (his words!) than establishing why the book is recommended or "essential reading" or what have you. I certainly don't mind his criticisms and in fact agree with them, but it would have been nice to see what he liked about the book as well.

As much as I hate Ruins of Myth Drannor, even I can point out some positive things about it, such as its great potential--it really had promise. I honestly think the only reason it turned out so poor was that it was rushed through production and lacked a coherent vision. My guess is that there was a lot of drama that we don't know about that caused it. Same for the last Ultima or King's Quest games--no doubt there was something there, but for various reasons it didn't pan out. That said, there are plenty of good things about both of them that tend to get ignored. Hell, I've even seen a guy go out of his way to defend E.T. for the Atari 2600!

Anyway, again I appreciate both reviews very much and would love, love, love to see more!

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Printed version of Armchair Arcade

What was the final word on a printed version of Armchair Arcade? Just not doable? Money not there? I am curious.

That Metroid cover does look sweet. Looks like it takes a decent chunk of change to buy an issue and ship it over seas. I am still interested in checking one out, though. hmm.

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Matt Barton
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That's a project we've been

That's a project we've been discussing for a long time, Chris. Bill did the legwork on it, and (correct me if I'm wrong), there just wasn't any real interest on the part of publishers. There seems to be to this ridiculous idea that no one is into old videogames, and, to be fair, even the mags on modern games are having a hard time right now. There seems to be this idea that people want to play games, not read about them, and even if they do the web is full of free stuff (especially reviews), so why bother?

From what I've seen, I have to admit I think they're right. There is a core audience for this stuff, but it is very, very small. We're talking hundreds instead of the thousands (if not tens of thousands!) they'd need for a viable full-color, glossy magazine. I don't know what the actual runs are like, but I'm guessing that a magazine with a few hundred subscribers would be classified as "deep niche" and probably be self-published. That's something we might look into at some point, but I don't think any of us have the enthusiasm or funding for that right now.

Try to imagine how many people would pay for an amateur U.S. magazine (and perhaps Mark's special Dutch edition) on retrogaming that has to be shipped and all that; my guess is that the cheapest we could produce it and recoup losses would be $6 to $10 per issue, maybe more. My estimate is that you'd be looking at a subscriber base of about 25 to 30 people. Just not worth it for anyone involved, at least in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong--I love you guys to death! But there just isn't enough of you. Or, maybe there is, but for whatever reason, word is not getting out. In any case, there is something to be said for just sticking to the web format and doing feature length blogs and videos when we get the chance. It's a lot better than nothing. :)

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Larry Laffer (not verified)
long post ahead that is

long post ahead

that is rediculous and wrong. The TRUTH is that you are not yet ready for prime time so they say, but why not. I ask, why not. Why because it is not so good. There are better sites and videos and blogs, even you go to that gamasutra site for your articles because it is better. What do I say? What I say is that your sucking because you do not have the iniative. first off what this have to do with armchairs???stupid name!!!I thought furniture store. sure it is not for everyone, but some lack taste and a sucker born EVERY MINUTE But how to CASH IN? You will hate this answer I know. But answer is spam and gorilla marketing. Got to post it everyhwere and anywhere. It hard to reach idiots but once you do you can really profit from ignorence and lack of taste. let put it this way, you reading this. that pathetic. Post link in everywhere

Her is a true story. A friend got caught in something a nigerien scam. He thought it was legit and he would make big money. So he gave them all information, and he got a credit problem now that is on his record for seven years least. He is not only one. Many idiot failed, and it was so dumb. Now I ask you if that stupidness can wine big, how many can you get with intelligence?? Just say that when you pay you get a thousand free games and haha when they do you just show them links to sites with free games anyway haha !!!! so what I say is go after the idiot, they are so stujpid.make a cd and say five hundred free games and it is free games you got off the web

on my websit i have four ads there from casino. they pay me 20 a month for that. haha! sure it not much but that is profit and i do not update the site ever. it just has my cat on it and a few videogames links and screenshots. just sell ads on this site you make some moeny that way.

if you had a magazine I personally would not buy it, why would i when better is free on the interenet. But im just saying ther are people lacking sense who would pay, so find them and get there cash. if you do i expect payments because i gave you this idea.

sorry if this not make sense i'm pretty high right now.

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Pretty High?
Larry Laffer wrote:

sorry if this not make sense i'm pretty high right now.

Ah! So that explains it.

Might I suggest that you lay off the wacky backy, sir? It is obviously diminishing your cognitive ability--and trust me, you don't want to do that.

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Bill Loguidice
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Larry Laffer
Matt Barton wrote:
Larry Laffer wrote:

sorry if this not make sense i'm pretty high right now.

Ah! So that explains it.

Might I suggest that you lay off the wacky backy, sir? It is obviously diminishing your cognitive ability--and trust me, you don't want to do that.

Indeed, it's telling that Larry is both high and accepts casino advertisements on his Website.

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The biggest stumbling block

The biggest stumbling block with the publishers for a print version (and remember, this was several years back when the industry was still viable) was that we had no sales staff in place. We needed that first to be able to get closer to inking a deal. All we could offer was the editorial expertise, which wasn't enough. We also had a larger staff back then.

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Larry Laffer (not verified)
Okay listen to ME. you dont

Okay listen to ME. you dont need a sales staff. what is that? That is retarded. You guys have no need of it. You have three things you DO need, knowlege, ambetion. How many have it? Answer is many, but o.k., maybe you are more enclined. In any case, here is my advise. listen closely because it is wise advise, haha!!!

1. Forget everthing else, you are making a movie. Everthing should be about the movie becuase that is eye-opening. who can say that? nobody but you that I know of. Play it up!!!! why even go on about armchairs, that retarded. Focus on the movie!!!! call it woot, all other names are rretard. IF you hate woot then call it: Leisure Time! it makes more sents.

2. Speak your opinion about everything, dont be calword. What I mean is why be afraid. just be yourself and dont be afriad!!!!!!! i garontee that will get more people on the case. what i mean is dont be so stiff, fart and let it out.

3. tits.

4. this one is serious, because I like you guys. really, so here it is. Ignore it. if it is stupid, just dont pay it no mind. If you chase after tards who want to shit on you, that shows you are afriad of them. Just piss on them is me. like me, even. if you reply to this it like, oh got ntohign better to do. That just the facts.

You are right about the chronic holy shit i am so high i can barely type. But deep dowjn I hope you like it. I lurk but i also type.

Mark Vergeer
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There actually was some constructive sentiment in the last post.

So does Larry actually care about this site? I thought we were boring the hell out of him. Ah well....

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