Silly Gamer, the DSi is for kids!

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Just saw this at Engadget: Sony says the DSi is for kids, the PSP is for winners. Apparently, Sony's PR team has reacted to the launch of the DSi by calling it a kid's toy with poor third-party support. The author of the piece makes a keen observation that it's probably the iPhone that poses the most serious threat to the PSP's market share.

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Bill Loguidice
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Ah, Sony at their PR best

Ah, Sony at their PR best (which is to say at their worst). It's probably the PSP that will suffer the most. The PSP is a great system, but surprisingly even with its advanced 3D technology, ironically it seems like the system that developers took least advantage of and has less exciting new stuff coming out for it than either the DS or iPhone. Sony really needs to get the PSP 2 out with a touch screen and several other improvements by the end of the year to stay highly competitive. As it is, the buzz is all on the DSi and the iPhone. As owners of them all, I can see why on all counts.

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Here's a different perspective: A non-buyer! ;-)
Bill Loguidice wrote:

Ah, Sony at their PR best (which is to say at their worst). It's probably the PSP that will suffer the most. The PSP is a great system, but surprisingly even with its advanced 3D technology, ironically it seems like the system that developers took least advantage of and has less exciting new stuff coming out for it than either the DS or iPhone. Sony really needs to get the PSP 2 out with a touch screen and several other improvements by the end of the year to stay highly competitive.

Sony made at least two major blunders with the PSP:

- The games:
They really lost to Nintendo on that one who really did envision who would use the DS for what.
Why? Because Sony became incredibly arrogant and stupid with their double success of the PS1 and PS2! They thought that they can't fail with either PSP and the PS3 (the judge is still out on this one but I'm not overly optimistic). After all the Playstation brand is so great - everybody wants to "play Playstation", right? Wrong! Every pimply teen wanted to play the *newest* Playstation games which is why the PSP should have the *same* franchises as their most successfull home system of the time (the PS2) - and not quick & dirty adaptions of older PS1 games!

Sony decided to ignore casual gaming and thought of an expensive, high quality mobile tech-wonder - and they built it! But of course with all this capability came a higher price and this drove lots of people to the competition. The same "strategy" they applied to the PS3, obviously...

- UMD movies:
All the money spent because some idiot marketeer told them that kids like to watch full movies on the train to school.
How *idiotic* is that? I don't know who deserves to be shot first: The idiot that came up with the idea or the idiots that pulled the trigger on spending all that money on the disks, their marketing and other resources. Why? Lots of people with mobile devices (with large enough screens) indeed like to watch something but it's either TV shows, youtube videos or porn - but it has to be *free*.
If Sony had been clever and wanted to push the PSP *and* their movies they should've put UMDs into their regular DVD boxes (Sony Pictures has enough material to do that) and *maybe* increase the price by a Dollar (or whatever the price to manufacture a UMD is). That way UMDs probably would IMHO have become *the* standard mobile disk format and people buying DVDs would re-discover them when they eventually got a PSP (or a compatible player). But greedy Sony wanted to sell the movie twice of course, killing the format in the process. Sony marketing probably thought: "Unlimited Money, Doofus!"
They also could've made contracts with TV studios to allow for downloadable TV episodes for PSP owners at small prices (or for free) to establish the platform as the premier mobile TV platform...

Ironically, several movies now come out on Blu-ray-Disk with a licence to download the same movie in a version for mobile devices - with no additional cost. Seems to me that somebody finally paid attention.

Additionally:

The TV output to watch UMDs on a TV set would be good idea - in a world where DVD players don't exist in nearly every home!
Sony reduces their home consoles all the time to stay competitive (less features and less connectors etc.) they upgrade their mobile device? What are they thinking? [AVGN mode off]

And I don't even want to discuss the intentionally limited cpu clock to prolong battery life (aka "to make room for future expansion").

No wonder that the biggest electronics chain in Germany now sells a bundle of a 80 megs PS3 with a PSP (Slim and Lite - 2000 series) instead of a bundled game for the same price of 399 Euros. They are marketing it more or less as a second controller...

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As it is, the buzz is all on the DSi and the iPhone.

Ack. And deservedly so because of the above reasons and because Nintendo has a better grip on reality (they made their mistakes earlier).
IMHO, the PSP is dead, regardless how much Sony struggles and how many versions come out.

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It will always come down to

It will always come down to the games. Where are the killer games for the PSP? There are maybe 3 or 4 games that I've had even vague interest in playing. Compare their lineup to even the 1st party titles on the DS. Then throw in the backwards compatibility of the DS to all the GBA games.

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It will always come down to the games. Where are the killer games for the PSP? There are maybe 3 or 4 games that I've had even vague interest in playing. Compare their lineup to even the 1st party titles on the DS. Then throw in the backwards compatibility of the DS to all the GBA games.

Though of course with the DSi, the backwards compatibility with the GBA games is out the window... Of course that was also after allowing many years for people to properly transition, so at this point it's no major deal except for those who liked to play "homebrews".

In my opinion and usage, the PSP actually has a very strong software line-up, but poor battery life and often long load times kind of dampen the experience at times. Also, new and exciting titles have been few and far between of late, with Sony promising that this will change now for quite some time. The PSP is hardly a failure and is in fact the most successful competitor against the Game Boy line ever, but it definitely needs a new hardware iteration that addresses several of the flaws and goes more solid state. There's still time to make the portable line an even bigger, more enduring success, but not a great deal of time in a world of DSi's and iPhone 3G's... (and for some of us, Pandora's as well...)

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The 'Disc' format of the PSP is what is putting me of

The PSP's disc-format is really offputting to me. I was contemplating on getting a DSi (what's that with the i? Wii, iMac, iPhone, DSLite, DSi) as my white DSlite has a broken hinge (it is cracked but stable). It would be the 3rd DS that I would own and that is enough for me to not be buying one.

I will wait for the Pandora to be in my hands and then perhaps make another decision.

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I'm expecting with one of

I'm expecting with one of the two cameras built into the hinge area that the hinges on the DSi will be the best yet. We'll see, though. I never had an issue with my DS Phat and only had modified DS Lites that were well worn (for my daughters), so I have no first hand experience with the hinges on the Lites, though everything I've read they're pretty weak (and aftermarket cases don't work well either).

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The "i"
Mark Vergeer wrote:

DSi (what's that with the i? Wii, iMac, iPhone, DSLite, DSi)

Found a little about this in my reader today: So, What Does The "i" In "DSi" Stand For?: The DSi is really about the "individual" gamers.

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Just got my DSi last night.

Just got my DSi last night. Other than nicer screens, so far I see nothing much different other than the two cameras. I'll have to try the DSiware store, since purchasers get 1000 "free" points to spend there until October.

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All my umd disks I copied to

All my umd disks I copied to memory stick and its way better playing off the memstick than the umd drive.

I really like the psp (I have the old fat model). I dont watch movies on it tho. I'm also targetting it for my homebrew crpg. Was never a fan of the ds and probably wont go near the dsi either. shrugs.

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I agree 100% with the

I agree 100% with the comments about the UMD. Just flat out nutty.

The reason I went DS was simply that I knew Nintendo would have some fun games for it. If all else fails, you know if you go Nintendo you will at least have at least a few fun Mario and Zelda games to play, because Nintendo will see to it. That said, I've yet to get either a Mario or a Zelda game for the damn thing. :)

The PSP might have some fun stuff, too, but I was put off by the device, which seems much less durable than the DS. I love being able to close up the DS and not have to worry about it, whereas my brother (who has a PSP) has to pack it lovingly in a slipcase and seems to fret constantly about people dropping it during gameplay.

I wonder if they'll ever make one of these things with goggles again? Or did the Virtual Boy eliminate that possibility?

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