No, seriously... Collecting the Commodore 64 in the U.S.

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I missed the boat on the Commodore 64. I never really played any games on it. Sure, I used it in school. But hey - that's different.

Sometimes you are limited to what the family has. I grew up with an IBM PC when it was made by IBM. School typically had a segregated lab. No. No. Not like *that*. What I mean is that Apple IIs were on one side and C64s were on the other. I recall messing around with a "game" on the C64 where you rotate an icon/cursor that was called a "turtle" and could give it instructions to draw some pictures. That was about all we had as far as games were concerned.

So flash forward to present day. I started collecting video games around 2000. I mostly started buying games that I never owned on the systems I still did. Perhaps I missed out on this NES game or that SNES game. I even rounded out the Atari 2600 collection a bit. It quickly grew to other popular systems, and the library of games was growing.

I took a break from the collecting for a little while and came back in the last couple of years. Now I've been acquiring some of the "odd systems." Some of them are niche systems. Others are older computers. These are some of the systems for which you don't see thousands upon thousands of ebay auctions. I now own 2 MSX machines, a CDI, a 3DO, and a Commodore 64.

So let's talk C64. It is a little harder to jump in on this than I thought. Compared to the NES or SNES, you can't just jump on ebay and have multiple sellers, starting prices, etc for the C64 games you want. You have to get lucky and hope someone lists it...with a buy it now for less than $100. My first real score for the system was a boxed lot of several games - Zork I, Zork II, Zork III, Pool of Radiance, Heroes of the Lance, Hillsfar, Curse of the Azure Bonds, and Secret of the Silver Blades. I have yet to almost play any of these as it took several months of me waiting for the right time to take apart and work on the 1541. Soon after I got the games, none of them worked. I was happy that it sounded like a typical problem with a 1541 floppy drive that could be repaired. I have decent abilities when it comes to game electronics, but finding time to tackle something is tough. This is sometimes an even greater problem when it involves hardware you haven't messed with before.

By the time I repaired the 1541, my C64 kick had died off. Now it is on the rise again. I picked up a complete Archon off ebay....except...it was the PC version (seller gave me a refund). So once again, my C64 kick gets shot down.

What's on the list? Well, I suppose I am looking for a few odds and ends. Some are to play and some are to simply own. Others are out of pure curiosity. Archon, Legacy of the Ancients, Arkanoid, G.I. Joe, The Great Gianna Sisters, Impossible Mission, Wasteland, heck...Transformers (two of them, right?). I suppose I wouldn't mind checking out M.U.L.E. and Elite as well thanks to Matt Chat and a few times where I think "I need to seriously play that some day" as the years roll by.

So is there a good "go to" place for C64 collecting? Is there just a drought on ebay? Should I be patient? Looking for suggestions of markets from you guys as well as games to add to the list. I asked for games a little while back on monroeworld, but I really need to just find out if I should be looking on ebay or elsewhere.

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Don't plug anything into the joystick port after power-up!
Calibrator wrote:

So no harm in plugging them in while the system is powered - even static discharges shouldn't be a problem. The manual may say otherwise because of liability reasons, though.

I worked for a circus that ran all their lighting cues using an Amiga, and the Lighting Director fried the Amiga by plugging in the mouse when the power was on. Being a hardcore Amiga user at the time, I knew that plugging in the mouse after power-up could fry your CIA chip, and sure enough, he had to get the CIA chip replaced. "Never plug in a mouse with the power on" was common knowledge with Amiga users at the time.

I never heard about such a thing with the Atari 8-bits, but it's possible that the C-64 had a similar problem as the Amiga did. Therefore, the "joystick port" warning is quite warranted, in my opinion.

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Perhaps the circus hadn't

Perhaps the circus hadn't properly grounded their Amiga? I find the discussion odd because my father is an electrician and a paranoid one at that, so I'd be shocked (pun intended) if he wasn't aware of that.

He's actually published in an old Amazing Computing. He wrote a letter about modifying the external drive on the A1000 with a little toggle switch. That saved precious ram and was the only way to play certain games.

Probably not relevant (not sure about the site), but this guy claims it's okay as well.

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Re: No, seriously... Collecting the Commodore 64 in the U.S.
Chris Kennedy wrote:

I missed the boat on the Commodore 64. I never really played any games on it. Sure, I used it in school. But hey - that's different.

Sometimes you are limited to what the family has. I grew up with an IBM PC when it was made by IBM. School typically had a segregated lab. No. No. Not like *that*. What I mean is that Apple IIs were on one side and C64s were on the other. I recall messing around with a "game" on the C64 where you rotate an icon/cursor that was called a "turtle" and could give it instructions to draw some pictures. That was about all we had as far as games were concerned.

So flash forward to present day. I started collecting video games around 2000. I mostly started buying games that I never owned on the systems I still did. Perhaps I missed out on this NES game or that SNES game. I even rounded out the Atari 2600 collection a bit. It quickly grew to other popular systems, and the library of games was growing.

I took a break from the collecting for a little while and came back in the last couple of years. Now I've been acquiring some of the "odd systems." Some of them are niche systems. Others are older computers. These are some of the systems for which you don't see thousands upon thousands of ebay auctions. I now own 2 MSX machines, a CDI, a 3DO, and a Commodore 64.

So let's talk C64. It is a little harder to jump in on this than I thought. Compared to the NES or SNES, you can't just jump on ebay and have multiple sellers, starting prices, etc for the C64 games you want. You have to get lucky and hope someone lists it...with a buy it now for less than $100. My first real score for the system was a boxed lot of several games - Zork I, Zork II, Zork III, Pool of Radiance, Heroes of the Lance, Hillsfar, Curse of the Azure Bonds, and Secret of the Silver Blades. I have yet to almost play any of these as it took several months of me waiting for the right time to take apart and work on the 1541. Soon after I got the games, none of them worked. I was happy that it sounded like a typical problem with a 1541 floppy drive that could be repaired. I have decent abilities when it comes to game electronics, but finding time to tackle something is tough. This is sometimes an even greater problem when it involves hardware you haven't messed with before.

By the time I repaired the 1541, my C64 kick had died off. Now it is on the rise again. I picked up a complete Archon off ebay....except...it was the PC version (seller gave me a refund). So once again, my C64 kick gets shot down.

What's on the list? Well, I suppose I am looking for a few odds and ends. Some are to play and some are to simply own. Others are out of pure curiosity. Archon, Legacy of the Ancients, Arkanoid, G.I. Joe, The Great Gianna Sisters, Impossible Mission, Wasteland, heck...Transformers (two of them, right?). I suppose I wouldn't mind checking out M.U.L.E. and Elite as well thanks to Matt Chat and a few times where I think "I need to seriously play that some day" as the years roll by.

So is there a good "go to" place for C64 collecting? Is there just a drought on ebay? Should I be patient? Looking for suggestions of markets from you guys as well as games to add to the list. I asked for games a little while back on monroeworld, but I really need to just find out if I should be looking on ebay or elsewhere.

I have many games for the C64 on commodore floppies if you are interested. No longer have my C64, but they all worked perfect last time they were used (about 2 years ago). They are mainly copies (a few originals)...but all work great. Let me know if you're interested (I have literally hundreds of games).

-- Joe

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I just got "C64 Forever"

I just got "C64 Forever" from Cloanto and have been checking it out. Hope to have a review up soon, but from what I've seen so far it's quite nice. They've really packed a lot of games with it, too.

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Matt Barton wrote:

I just got "C64 Forever" from Cloanto and have been checking it out. Hope to have a review up soon, but from what I've seen so far it's quite nice. They've really packed a lot of games with it, too.

I'd like to hear about that, as I didn't realize there was a C-64 version.

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It pretty much was just

It pretty much was just released Bill, and it is very good too! I also got it, sure I been emulating C64 and Amiga for years but I was so impressed with the their Amiga Forever package that I did not hesitate to order the new C64 Forever package. I presentation and interface are excellent and it can even read C64 files in different formats and import them as well giving you instant and easy access to all your C64 games and apps. I like Cloanto and support them, sure we can emulate without these packs but not everyone is savy when it comes to setting up emulation so it is good these guys simplify everything for the casual user.

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Cloanto Stuff

Anyone know if there's a way to order both Amiga Forever and C64 Forever at the same time? It looks like you have to do separate orders, from separate Websites. I'd like to get both premium packages. It's well worth supporting.

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I have a c64 with tape desk

I have a c64 with tape desk and joystick with quite a few games. Want to sell but not sure where to sell?

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Anonymous wrote:
I have a c64 with tape desk and joystick with quite a few games. Want to sell but not sure where to sell?

eBay is usually the easiest. It's not worth much unless the boxed games (and they have to be boxed - loose games aren't worth much of anything at all) are particularly interesting (usually something other than action games).

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jeff (not verified)
It's getting time to clear

It's getting time to clear out stuff. ( getting older) . I have a c64, 1541,commodore 1330 cassette, a Vic 20 modem. with user manuals, plus 5 books all on the c64 one being the original manual and one being a programmers guide. I have a 5-1/4 floppies also. a small switch box for the TV and power packs for both c64 and the 1541 hard drive.
These would be an " as is" the best I can do is dbl check everything before I send them.
Sorry but I won't break up the group

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