Just got a second Xbox 360 - Trying to clarify something

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Mark Vergeer
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To go refurbished or not, that is the question....

I will probably go retail for the 2nd Xbox I want to get. Perhaps a 2nd hand one from a reputable Retro Game store in my hometown that does some thorough testing before I actually buy it.
Good that you still managed to get it all working the way you wanted Bill. A shame it cost you more than you'd liked. :-( Ah well, the option to use in the bedroom is a nice thing. The European (Dutch) movie store is insane - hopelessly void of content. But as the EU is all about free travel for people and goods without barriers. Perhaps if I take my 360 with me on some of my trips to France I am able to view some movies on it in France by setting the location to France and logging in from a French IP address. The future will tell.

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Well, the VGA cable was a

Well, the VGA cable was a disaster in this case. The TV simply doesn't support any decent resolutions. Unlike my newer 1080p 50" Samsung which supports all widescreen resolutions over VGA (and how I get 1080p on my old model 360), the older 27" Toshiba LCD TV only supports 4:3 up to a max of 1024x768 or so, which doesn't fill the screen. No dice. So I will take the VGA cable as an unfortunate and expensive loss (it may have use in the future) and just use my old spare component cable and the manual switchbox, which I wanted to avoid. Still, it works perfectly and I have it locked it at 720p, which is good enough for me. I was able to get Netflix working on my third device (the first Xbox 360 and the arcade machine are the other two) of six possible so I'm happy. Unfortunately with all the extra stuff I had to buy the less than $130 shipped Xbox 360 came out to rather more than that. Still, around $200 (counting unused stuff like the VGA cable) and I have a spare 20GB Xbox 360 (with likely broken HDMI, so pretend it's an original model) with wireless controller, headset, remote and full Internet access, in addition to a 256MB memory card for a roving profile and another game disc. Fair enough in the end I suppose despite the miscalculation.

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Switching
Mark Vergeer wrote:

I've acquired a component switch for that. That is - it is actually a multi switch as it does component, composite, svideo, analog stereo and digital audio combined with ethernet. Be sure not to get a mechanical one as they hardly ever produce a clear picture above 480p. The electronically switched ones with certified resolutions are the best.

I'm not going to bother as I don't need one. I have a mechanical one that works fine that I just don't want to deal with anymore (I previously had the original Xbox on that TV that was on switch 2, while the HD DVR was switch 1). I want the convenience of full remote since I''ll be controlling all of this in bed, so the "easiest" solution was just to use the VGA cable, which will plug into another input on the TV.

I use a powered and remote controlled switchbox (probably the same one as you, the one from Pelican) on my 1080p living room TV, though only for audio switching (it does component and everything else as well). That TV has enough input to handle all the video (multiple HDMI. VGA and component, etc.), I just need the audio switching because I have a Sony surround sound receiver for sound that I use optical audio on (for the HD DVR, 360 and PS3; the Wii obviously uses RCA). I also use a nifty Logitech Harmony 880 to control it all and it works beautifully: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/remotes/universal_remotes/devices/372&... . Before I'd have to use multiple remotes. Now I just use the one. It even controls the Xbox 360. I got it for a steal on Amazon a few months back (I think less than $80 or something).

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Component switch

I've acquired a component switch for that. That is - it is actually a multi switch as it does component, composite, svideo, analog stereo and digital audio combined with ethernet. Be sure not to get a mechanical one as they hardly ever produce a clear picture above 480p. The electronically switched ones with certified resolutions are the best.

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VGA and the 360
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Mine does so 1366x768 (with the corrected aspect ratio by the new xbox firmware) is actually a bit better than component which only does 720p. I can't go HDMI on my old Xbox so the VGA cable is an excellent way to get a highres picture.

Yeah, using the VGA cable on my old style Xbox is the only way I can get 1080p in all modes with it. It will be interesting to see what the VGA cable with the new Xbox on the old LCD HDTV does. The cable is supposed to arrive today. I have a feeling it does only a max of 1024x768 based on the television's documentation, but I'll certainly experiment. I know many new resolutions were added with the update, but I'm not sure if 1024x768 is on there, and I also have to see how well the widescreen works since it's a widescreen TV. I probably should have just stuck with the component cables as that would have been perfect for 720p, but I really didn't want to bother with the manual switchbox since it only has the one component input that the cable box is on.

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Mine does

Mine does so 1366x768 (with the corrected aspect ratio by the new xbox firmware) is actually a bit better than component which only does 720p. I can't go HDMI on my old Xbox so the VGA cable is an excellent way to get a highres picture.

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Don't know if this affects

Don't know if this affects you, but a lot of TV's these days are natively 1366x768.

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Depends on the TV
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The max VGA resolution is higher than the component 720p 1080i on my TV - isn't VGA better?

I use the VGA cable on my first generation Xbox 360 (no HDMI) on my family room Samsung TV to get 1080p, which the TV natively supports. For this new model 360 (which has HDMI that doesn't seem to work) on my upstairs bedroom TV, which only does 720p as a native resolution (though it supports 1080i - it's an older Toshiba 27" LCD HDTV), it MAY only support up to 1024x768 over the VGA port (a TV limitation), but I'm not sure. In any case, as long as I get at least 720p I'll be happy with it. It's mostly going to be for streaming Netflix and the very occasional game anyway. The primary 360 and 50" TV will be mostly used.

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Isn't VGA better than component?

The max VGA resolution is higher than the component 720p 1080i on my TV - isn't VGA better?

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Bill Loguidice
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Well, the used Xbox 360

Well, the used Xbox 360 Arcade came and it was in immaculate condition. Surprisingly it came with the 256MB memory card it wasn't supposed to. So I went ahead and did the super simple process of moving my Xbox Live gametag to the memory card instead of moving the hard drive back and forth (I figured why not since the card was there). It's a lot more elegent solution (using the memory card) than I realized. The only downside are the aesthetics of it plugged into the system, but that will be nothing for the convenience of being live on two different systems and if I ever take it to a friend's house (unlikely, but it's an option now regardless).

I already had everything ready to go with the TV in our bedroom and my wired Internet connection. I plugged everything in, popped in my spare 20GB hard drive and turned it on. Unfortunately I wasn't getting anything out of the HDMI connection, so I had to drop down to composite to get the system setup. After downloading the new NXE it was ready to go. Unfortunately, no matter what I did I couldn't get the HDMI connection to work. I suspect that's what was wrong with the unit, the HDMI output. In any case, everything else seems to work so I ordered a VGA cable from Amazon, which my TV has and whose port definitely works on the 360 (it's what all other connections use including the composite I tried for testing).

I could have did a component connection since I have an extra component cable, but I didn't want to use my manual switchbox (the TV only has one component input, which the cable box is on right now) since I'd prefer to control everything remotely in bed. That cable should arrive on Friday.

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