Just got a second Xbox 360 - Trying to clarify something

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Bill Loguidice
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I just got a refurb (used) Xbox 360 Arcade off of eBay sans the 256MB memory card for about $130 shipped, so that was a good deal. I obviously already have a 120GB original Xbox 360 that was upgraded from the 20GB model. Originally I was planning on using the old 20GB hard drive with the coming Arcade model, but I failed to consider the issue of Gamertag, in that I want to use my same Gold level Gamertag with both systems. The idea was neither system would be on at the same time so I wouldn't have any conflicts. It seems doing so may not be quite so straightforward.

There are many suggestions for using a memory card to house my gamertag and game saves and just plug it into each console when I want to use it. The other, easier suggestion (particularly since I'd need to buy a memory card) was just to plug and unplug the loaded 120GB hard drive into each console each time I wanted to use it. Of course that's not ideal either, but it might work, though I wouldn't get to use the 20GB drive.

My question is - and I haven't been able to find anything definitive online so I just might have to call Microsoft - is there an easy way to have a Gamertag on more than one Xbox 360 as long as you don't log in at the same time? I know there's a "recover gamertag" option, but apparently that disables the gamertag on the other console and you have to do the "recover gamertag" over and over.

Thanks for the thoughts and suggestions!

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Yes the first generation PAL had PS2 backwards compatibility

The first generation PAL machines had PS2 backwards compatibility, but it was all in software and supposedly more glitchy than the part hardware solution the US NTSC machines came with. That's why I postponed on getting one when they came out - next to the high price and the lack of good games on release.

The US marketplace is totally different from the EU marketplace. The 2nd hand videogame marketplace is incredibly small and because the choice is so limited you often have a selection of totally crapped out machines that aren't worth getting. I'll do a little search to see.

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PAL versus NTSC territories
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PS2 backwards compatibility would be something great but I won't be able to obtain a new PS3 with PS2 backwards compatibility and I don't want to go 2nd hand on the PS3.

For what it's worth, I've never had a problem with my second hand hardware backwards compatible (60GB) PS3, which I purposely got off of eBay for that express purpose. Unfortunately, they're getting much harder to get at reasonable prices, so the window may have already closed.

I'm trying to remember... Did Europe even get a PS3 release with hardware backwards compatibility? I know they were last to get the system...

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Arrghh NetFlix

I would love to be able to rent HD movies on either the 360 or the PS3 without having to go out in this weather - snow and hail - from the comfort of my armchair-arcade. Alas something like that probably isn't going to happen as the big media firms only want to make such deals with France, UK and Germany. A juicy carrot is being dangled in front of you.

It is just plain insane that when I am at home in the Netherlands I can't rent movies on the 360 and when I am at home in France I can. Insane!

I could of course go behind a US proxy, use my US credit card and....

Anyways, the PS3 is a good and silent media center next to being a console. Any word on PS2 backwards-compatibility on the newer PS3 models?

PS2 backwards compatibility would be something great but I won't be able to obtain a new PS3 with PS2 backwards compatibility and I don't want to go 2nd hand on the PS3.

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PS3
Mark Vergeer wrote:

There's not so many killer-apps on the PS3 that make it worth getting though. The whole online experience is less solid than the 360. And Gran Turismo keeps getting delayed :-( Elise loves the 360-live arcade puzzle games and will no doubt love loco-roco on the PS3. Any suggestions for good solid pro-ps3 arguments for the wife?

Not really from me, but I'm sure others will chime in. My wife is not much of a gamer, but she enjoys playing cooperative "Little Big Planet", the downloadable "Pain" and "Pixel Junk Monsters", as well as some of the backwards compatible PS2 titles (like Baldur's Gate 2) on there with me. We also watch lots of BluRay movies on it (last one was the superb Rambo) thanks to Netflix, which shares the love on the 360 with the instant streaming service.

Honestly, I haven't done much with the PS3 to PSP interaction. I haven't touched my PSP in quite some time, actually, though it's sitting on the nightstand next to my bed.

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Hmmm

As Elise is going on a 4 week dig in Egypt in February/March I may actually be tempted to get myself a PS3 as I will be very lonely and will have to soothe myself with something electronically. Elise will no doubt declare me utterly nuts as we don't own a single BluRay disc and we sort of agreed on the the media extender I wrote about earlier. But that is quite expensive compared to a PS3 as you do get more functionality from a PS3. Especially connectivity with the PSP and the ability to 'stream' PS1 games is something that is interesting. I do have a PSP and streaming media from the PS3 to the PSP would interest me.

There's not so many killer-apps on the PS3 that make it worth getting though. The whole online experience is less solid than the 360. And Gran Turismo keeps getting delayed :-( Elise loves the 360-live arcade puzzle games and will no doubt love loco-roco on the PS3. Any suggestions for good solid pro-ps3 arguments for the wife?

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PS3 instead of a stock media extender
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So obtaining a second one and using it as a noisy media extendor - only for home brew media - in the living room or for the occasional XBLA game is not a economical thing to do. I am probably better of with one of these media players by Popcorn Hour - like the A-110

Either that or a PS3, which works well too for that function and is something you don't have as of yet.

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No specialist system in PAL country - NL

After setting up my Xbox properly in my study - hooking it up to a new 26" samsung and a nice recliner in front of it Elise and I noticed that we do play the 360 more than we used to when it was on the main telly in the Living room.

There still is no nothing like netflix / video rental services available in the Netherlands - they really are missing out on a good income here as video rental is actually quite big in the Netherlands - and the rest of the Dutch Video store is a bad joke so setting one extra up as a specialist system over here is not really possible.

So obtaining a second one and using it as a noisy media extendor - only for home brew media - in the living room or for the occasional XBLA game is not a economical thing to do. I am probably better of with one of these media players by Popcorn Hour - like the A-110

I won't be getting one.

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profiles

Ok, I think I'm getting it, when you think about it makes sense. I was thinking Xbox Live maybe kept your info on their servers and like MSMessenger you could login from anywhere. But after thinking about it that wouldnt make sense with saves and all the stuff tagged to your account.

Clok

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Fixes and profiles
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I was under the assumption you could log into any 360 much like MS LIVE!, not the case? Just do a New user and put in your info and it should know you already if the box is connected? You figured it out with the memory card, and I guess that would be something I would want to know for sure.

Interesting about the fixes. You're far more adventurous and skilled than I am. I couldn't even get a broken Xbox 360 controller open to repair a bad left analog stick.

Anyway, I'm not sure what you're asking about the 360, but you can't just log in anywhere with your ID. It either needs to be recovered on the second machine, rendering it nonworking on the first machine; you need to move the hard drive back and forth; or you need to move the memory card back and forth. The memory card is the easiest, though not the most aesthetically pleasing, solution. When you first turn your Xbox 360 on and go the NXE, you just go the user profile block and pick the profile from the memory card. All your credentials are there for every game you've played and own, though in my case I didn't move any of my saves or games on the memory card. So that means while my profile is fully intact with all achievements and all ownership credentials, I have no saved games on the second system or downloaded games. It's simple enough to download the ones I own on the second system. This way my primary system is untouched and my secondary system, with the smaller hard drive, can be a specialist system (Netflix and XBLA games mostly).

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ebay-360's

I was under the assumption you could log into any 360 much like MS LIVE!, not the case? Just do a New user and put in your info and it should know you already if the box is connected? You figured it out with the memory card, and I guess that would be something I would want to know for sure.
I have bought several RROD 360's off E-Bay (only ones that say the warrenty sticker undamaged) I think i have bought 5 so far and 4 where all easy fixes. with a plastic CD container (the ones you get 50 blanks in) you can cut them and make the tool to open the Xbox up(instead of buying one for $20-30 and waiting) google it! The warrenty sticker is simple as a Hairdryer... I go to those $.50 or $1.00 sticker vending machines in most fast food places (around here at least) and get one. take the sticker off and use the ridigid thin backing to slid under the heated warrenty sticker. Now you can keep from voiding your warrenty and still get inside. Every RROD i have worked on has had the heat issue. Either the clamp is on so tight the board is warped (many places sell a clamp that fixes this, I use a hard plastic piece and just put it on back of board with some cutting). 3 of the 5 where very simple to fix, the heatsinks where just plugged. You would be suprised how much dust/hair/??? gets inside those machines in a clean house, then take a smoking, teenager, pet owner or gamers house and its not as clean as dust free as most. One was completly plugged, 2 had about 2/3rds of the air flow restricted. Simple clean and 3 of the 5 worked flawless, one I had to remove heatsinks and reapply heat greese and modify the backplate so the baord wasnt warped. All 4 still work to this day (sold them to friends after i fixed them for a couple bucks more then I paid). the 5th had a bad scaller chip (741 error if i rmeber right) and isnt a fix I want to do. The 360s have a bad rap, and it seems from reading and people I know it may be well earned, of the 10-12 people I know with them, only 1 who bought a new one hasnt had problems with it. Oh, and my launch day machine has never had a hicup.. but its not used like most, a 3-4 hour session is max for me (I'm a pc gamer).

Clok

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