Video in Vice or CCS64

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retroc64
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Does anyone have experience outputting video in either Vice or CCS64? I try to do it but the file is never viewable from Media Player or anything else for that matter. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Mark Vergeer
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Just give it a try

There are quite a few version of Pinnacle out there. I've used V8, V9 and V10 of the software, I find the latter more compatible than the previous versions. Uncompressed sound (pcm wav) is something it should be able to handle.
You could also opt for a compressed format for video and sound but you really need a fast multicore cpu to pull it off without frame skipping or video artifacts.

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retroc64
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Have you tried

I create the videos in vice as per your instructions. I don't use any codec for video or sound. Will this import into Pinacle?

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Virtualdub is free

Virtualdub is free/opensource software it works with the codecs that reside on your system. VLC has its own set of decoders that sit in the folder of VLC and those cannot be used system-wide.
If you have access to Pinnacle Studio you could give it a run, but it might not like the video's you throw at it as it does favor a PAL or NTSC setting. Vice could default to PAL when it comes to outputting video. Be sure to match the system-video setting in Vice and Pinnacle. Use NTSC when you are in the States and use US software. But I would actually recommend folk to use the PAL setting as this is more compatible with world-wide software and a lot of demos out there for the c64.
As for Zoomplayer, contrary to VLC it does install a set of codecs that can be used system wide - including FFMEG. There is a free and a paid variant of the software and I've been using the paid variant for over half a year now - to my satifaction. The paid version has the option to keep all the extra codecs up to the latest versions. Don't know about the free version.

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retroc64
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Great Advice

Thanks again Mark.

VLC worked but that still leaves me trying to figure out how to get the video into an editing program. I looked into Pinnacle studio and it seems great. Maybe it will be able to import this stuff.

As for codecs, the only thing I am aware of is quicktime, divx and xvid.

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Thanks for the compliments !

You could install Zoomplayer or VLC to see if they will play the video, these players are known to play just about anything you throw at them.

For your other applications to recognize the avi file properly you probably need to instal FFMeg. As a video editor I either use Virtual Dub, Pinnacle studio or Windows Movie Maker.
What audio and video codecs do you have installed on your machine?

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retroc64
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Great Tutorial

Thanks Mark, great tutorial. Sadly the avi that is produced doesn't seem to work in mediaplayer or any video editing software. It is either my machine or my IQ.

Mark, what video editing software do you use?

Thanks again for your help.

Matt Barton
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Thanks for the info, Mark. I

Thanks for the info, Mark. I keep meaning to try to do more with videos instead of just screenshots, especially since there are so many free options now like YouTube for hosting. I can imagine several instances where a video would be much better than a screenshot.

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I found out this even works on my Intel Mac

I found out this even works on my Intel Mac when running it through Wine or Cedega.

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Outputting video in Vice is pretty easy!

I used a combination of Vice - outputting Video and my video-in card and the real McCoy to make some of the little 'Classic Cartridges Back to Back' videos I posted a little more than a week ago.
To record video from Vice you do need to put a couple of video related dll's in the Vice directory otherwise you won't be able to use the video-out feature.

Vice video dll files - these files are freely available so I put them up somewhere for you to download. After you've put them into the Vice directory you'll be able to select the following options:
Vice 2.0 media file drop down menu

From the dialog window it is possible to save various 'media files', screen shots included. If you want to record a video be sure to select FFMPEG. That should be selectable after inserting those dll's. It could be possible that you need to install the full FFMPEG codec package on your system for it to work properly.
Vice 2.0 media file FFMPEG

Works great on my 1.5Ghz Pentium M laptop, but even on my two core intel machine running Vista I still select lossless saving of audio and video so that no emulation hiccups occur and the video doesn't show any compression artifacts. Insert them into a movie editing program and create your own c64 video reviews!
Vice 2.0 media file me prefered settings

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