Paladins Legacy

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The author of a Tandy Coco RPG, Paladin's Legacy has made it available.

Check out http://paladinslegacy.spaces.live.com/

Check it out;

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Dungeon
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Bill Loguidice
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Wow, that's bad!
adamantyr wrote:

It's really a pity, because I can tell you that the game's got a LOT more interesting dialogue than Gates of Delirium, by a long shot. Every NPC gabs on and gives you a lot of information. They even have NAMES. He has a decent background and plot mapped out. And some funny stuff too. But with no way to recover HP without cheating or pure luck... I just can't play it any further.

Is there any way possible that you're missing something? That sounds like a serious, serious flaw that someone along the way to publishing would have discovered just wasn't going to work, no?



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adamantyr
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Flaw or old school?
Bill Loguidice wrote:

Is there any way possible that you're missing something? That sounds like a serious, serious flaw that someone along the way to publishing would have discovered just wasn't going to work, no?

So far as I can tell, I haven't missed anything. There's a Sister in the cathedral that asks you for money for the needy. I hoped she would HEAL me for my good works, but nope, just took my money and thanked me. I tried multiple times just to be sure a free heal wasn't forthcoming after a few donations.

I remade my character with maxed out strength and dexterity, and just focused on grinding for money and keeping my HP high. This SEEMS to be the only way you can play at the initial start. Buying weapons and armor is useless; they make no discernible difference in battle outcomes, which are wildly random. In fact, your best strategy to conserve HP is to save, fight, check and see if the XP/gold was worth the loss, if not, restore. Fortunately the save/restore features are appreciably fast and easy. I was able to buy a healing potion for 100 gold which, not surprisingly, restored 100 hit points. Unfortunately getting 100 gold together took me well below my maximum of 250 so I was in a losing curve.

At this time, I've got over 500 experience and I have yet to receive any level boost from the queen. Whether this will magically restore my hit points to max or not I don't know... I'm guessing not, because the old Ultima's didn't.

Food doesn't run out too fast, if all you're doing is battle grinding. In fact, talking to people and exploring burns food much faster, so best to ignore all the chit-chat. Ironic, isn't it?

I'll keep going until I hit SOME kind of milestone. If 1000 experience still fails to net me an experience level, or if the monsters just scale up to my level, I'm going to be very disgusted.

chaneya (not verified)
Sorry for your pain, Tips for Paladins Legacy

Adamantyr,

Sorry I am so late finding this thread. I feel your pain regarding my old game.

I posted some tips to reduce the "slog" :) at my spaces site. I also posted them on this main thread.

Long story short: There is a Wood Nymph in Elm, City of Elves on the western side of the main map in the forest. Once you enter the city of Elm, she is on the right side of the map around a fire. Wait there and she will appear. She will heal you for free if you are pure of heart. If you are not pure of heart, just donate at the cathedral and you will become pure. If you steal something like a boat at the Thieves City on the eastern side of the map in the swamps, you become unpure. And of course if you chose to be a thief at the character creation screen, you are unpure.

Hope that helps.
Allan Chaney

http://paladinslegacy.spaces.live.com/

Rowdy Rob
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It's an honor.
chaneya wrote:

Adamantyr,

Sorry I am so late finding this thread. I feel your pain regarding my old game.

Mr. Chaney, although I've never owned a CoCo, and therefore have never played "Paladin's Legacy," let me say that it is a great honor for me to read a message from a true classic game designer! Your insights on your game, and the game design process, are very thought provoking.

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Matt Barton
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SLOGs!
adamantyr wrote:

I just loaded up Paladin's Legacy to give it a try. I was thinking about doing a "slog" like Stu did with Gates of Delirium.

SLOG IT, baby!!! :)

I love that people are actually using this little coinage of mine. I'm sure it will show up in a hiphop song any day now.

Yo yo yo, baby I was readin' yo blog
And thinking how nice it'd be to slog
Through yo underbog, yo underbog
Sloggin' it with my sloggas, yo yo yo.

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Rowdy Rob
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Slog?
Matt Barton wrote:

SLOG IT, baby!!! :)

Forgive my ignorance of Netspeak, but what the heck is a "slog?" Here's Wikipedia's reference:

Quote:

slog (disambiguation)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A slog is a type of shot in the game cricket.

Slog may also be:

* A super-logarithm, the inverse function of super-exponentiation
* A creature of fictional Oddworld
* An acronym for Swanley Light Opera Group

Let's see: cricket, math, "Oddworld," opera... I'm still confused! 8-S

Back on topic, these "Slogs" are very useful! Based on the experiences described with this game above, I would probably steer clear of this game, seeing how much trouble Adamantyr was having. I'd probably be even more lost! The "Seventh Link" blog (slog?) makes another case: I want to play that game!

One trick I've used on many of these type of games is the old "massive save-game" route, where I would break out of the game and copy the save game files as backups. If I died without making satisfying progress, I would keep recopying my save game files until I finally got somewhere. It might be cheating, but sometimes there's no other way to beat some games (even non-CRPG's).

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adamantyr
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Slog defined

'Slog' is a term we came up with ourselves to describe Stu's torturous play-through and blogging of the TRS-80 Color Computer CRPG, "Gates of Delirium". The idea being that in some cases, playing these old games is more tedious than fun.

I'm not sure yet if I can "slog" Paladin's Legacy... this is a really BAD grind. And I have no idea if I can get around the corner so that my character can actually survive and have enough gold to keep his health full and be able to buy decent equipment and enough food to be able to explore and talk to NPC's without loss.

Mark Vergeer
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Having to grind through

Having to grind through stuff and lack of dialog or interesting story line is what has turned me off from most of these games in the past. I probably haven't gotten around to a good experience though.



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Another retro game to add to

Another retro game to add to my long want-to-play list :D
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Matt Barton
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I'm with Rob! It's a shame

I'm with Rob! It's a shame we weren't in touch sooner, so you could have been interviewed and quoted in Dungeons and Desktops! :)

I haven't looked at your various websites, but it'd be neat to read your description of what the scene was like back then and how you got started in the business.

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