Should Matt buy a Wii?

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Bill Loguidice
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I voted no, dont become a

I voted no, dont become a wiidiot! :) We are trying to get worms armageddon or something similar for our PS2 (which we still only own 1 game for...)

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Matt Barton wrote:

Thanks for the comments, guys. I thought about what Mark said previously, too--I would hate to spend upwards of $300 getting all this setup, only to play for a few weeks and then shelve it. Then again, I doubt it's something I would play a lot solo, except perhaps for the Zelda game. It'd be great to have point-and-click games for it, though I'm not sure how that would work without a mouse.

Well, it comes with Wii Sports, which has the bowling, golf, baseball, tennis and boxing. The only ones that I find really fun are the bowling and the baseball. The others are flawed in my opinion.

You'll have to pick up a second Wii-mote and preferably matching nunchucks. You can take care of the second controller need by doing what most people do and that's by buying it bundled with Wii: Play, which is more mini-games, though definitely erring on the mediocre side.

Again, if you have wireless Internet in your home/apartment, then you can get online with the Wii out of the box. You would then pay for individual games. Right now they have not released any adventure games through the online (download) interface, but they will soon. You've already played Sam and Max, but the Strongbad game looks like fun. Generally speaking, as you'll see when you first turn on the console and tweak the controller's sensitivity (mine is cranked to the max), you can get pretty good point and click action by moving the Wii-mote (it also picks up rotation, etc.). It's still not quite as great as a mouse/trackball, but it's probably the next best thing and something you can pick up quickly.

Matt Barton wrote:

If I do buy this unit, it will be almost entirely for multiplayer games I can enjoy with the wife. I'd like to get some type of Worms game, and of course the bowling has been recommended by everyone. I'd also like to check out the fitness options. I tend to spend way too much time on my butt, so it'd be nice to have a game that was more active.

It tends to be skewed to multiplayer gaming, so that's not a problem. They have a Worms game for it that's either coming or is already out. Thus far, the stand alone bowling games have been garbage, but luckily the one it comes with is lots of fun (obviously). The only major fitness option is the soon-to-be-released Wii Fit, which I'm sure you heard a lot about ($90 - $100). No doubt if that takes off like expected, we'll see lots of offshoots of it.



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Thanks for the comments,

Thanks for the comments, guys. I thought about what Mark said previously, too--I would hate to spend upwards of $300 getting all this setup, only to play for a few weeks and then shelve it. Then again, I doubt it's something I would play a lot solo, except perhaps for the Zelda game. It'd be great to have point-and-click games for it, though I'm not sure how that would work without a mouse.

If I do buy this unit, it will be almost entirely for multiplayer games I can enjoy with the wife. I'd like to get some type of Worms game, and of course the bowling has been recommended by everyone. I'd also like to check out the fitness options. I tend to spend way too much time on my butt, so it'd be nice to have a game that was more active.

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Mark Vergeer wrote:

What does often happen with the Wii is that people are enthusiastic about it for a couple of weeks, then it gets shelved and collects dust. The Wii is one of the machines with the lowest adherence numbers - in other words people get the Wii but are not buying additional games. A good think Nintendo is making money on the actual consoles as well.

I agree with this to a degree, certainly. A large portion of the Wii's games are mini-game compilations or shovelware. The shovelware stuff is self explanatory, and is often licensed dreck or stuff that is also released on systems like the PS2 and PSP - meaning it would have also went on the GameCube if that platform were still viable. The mini-game compilations are lots of fun, but the problem comes when there are literally a dozen or more similar such games, with the same basic Wiimote mechanics, just with a different presentation. You can see on my own list of games that I have a high percentage of mini-game compilations--they're all fun, but there is ultimately a minimal difference between many of the individual games. That certainly makes me think twice about getting another such game like that. Same thing goes for the light gun style games (a play style some mini-games are also based on). There is only so much mechanical variation before having more than two or three such games starts to become rather redundant.

Also, as multi-console owners, we can get better versions of traditional games for either the 360 or PS3. The Wii is at its best when it takes advantage of its inherent strengths. It also helps to have an open mind in regards to game style as well, as while I hate to throw the "kiddie" term around, between the heavy bias towards Nintendo mascots and bright colors, there is a certain casual element to many of the visuals (Mii's being a perfect example of that). 360 and PS3 certainly tend to be the opposite of that.

With that said, each platform has its strengths and weaknesses (good and bad games, preponderance of a certain game type, etc.), and based on one's needs, I would wholeheartedly recommend them all.



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I say go for it.

Well - we got a Wii and the wife is into 360 as well. The Wii is also good for playing cheap Game Cube games - you need a game cube controller with that. I recommend getting the official Nintendo Wavebird wireless GC controller. Excellent - also for Virtual console gaming.
My wife Elise was a bit intimidated with the 360's multitude of buttons on the controller and the Wii with nun-chuck was way more accessible. After playing Zelda - the twilight princess she swiftly moved on to the old N64 Zelda's. Not afraid of the 360 controller she's become an avid Live Arcade gamer.
Recently she's even picked up the controller to have a go at Colin McRae Dirt - and she's not bad at it! The plus-part about it is that the wife and I get some quality time playing games but the downside is that the consoles may very well be occupied at times I want to play them. ;-)

What does often happen with the Wii is that people are enthusiastic about it for a couple of weeks, then it gets shelved and collects dust. The Wii is one of the machines with the lowest adherence numbers - in other words people get the Wii but are not buying additional games. A good think Nintendo is making money on the actual consoles as well.



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Matt Barton wrote:

Well, the deal is that Elizabeth's friends have been trying to "convert" her to Wii, and apparently it's working because she always mentions it when Sam's gets them in. One of my gaming colleagues here also talks it up a great deal. In short, I feel motivated because it's unusual for the wife to be hinting at something game-related; if she's showing interest, that may turn out to be a good thing. She doesn't play WOW, but we did have fun playing Donkey Kong Country a few years ago and we also play Worms on the Dreamcast every once in a blue moon. She's also a huge fan of Mario Kart, and I've heard there is a new one for the Wii.

If it were just for me, I'd go with a 360, but the Elizabeth angle here might push me towards the Wii.

That was what I was asking. That's a valid reason for getting one, and it's not like you even need a hi-def TV for it, as it doesn't receive much benefit from one like a PS3 or 360 does. It's a fun system, and if you're careful with the games you get and manage your expectations (don't try to recreate a 360 or PS3 experience on it), you'll have a great time with it. Also, from your standpoint, they'll be releasing the Sam & Max games and Homestar Runner point and click adventure games via Wii-ware (game download service). It's a good light gun game platform and of course it emulates older systems, like the NES, SNES, N64, Neo Geo, etc., though you obviously have to buy each game. Hopefully you have a wireless router, because it has built in wi-fi. I definitely plan on getting the latest Super Mario Kart myself, as I've been in love with the series since the original Super NES version (plus it comes with a kooky plastic steering wheel to stick the Wiimote into). Here's what I have so far for the Wii:

Carnival Games
Excite Truck
Ice Climber - NES - Virtual Console
Link's Crossbow Training
Mario Strikers Charged
MLB Power Pros
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Resident Evil 4
Super Mario Bros. - NES - Virtual Console
Super Paper Mario
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Wii: Play
Wii: Sports

The majority of those games are well worth the price of admission...



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Well, the deal is that

Well, the deal is that Elizabeth's friends have been trying to "convert" her to Wii, and apparently it's working because she always mentions it when Sam's gets them in. One of my gaming colleagues here also talks it up a great deal. In short, I feel motivated because it's unusual for the wife to be hinting at something game-related; if she's showing interest, that may turn out to be a good thing. She doesn't play WOW, but we did have fun playing Donkey Kong Country a few years ago and we also play Worms on the Dreamcast every once in a blue moon. She's also a huge fan of Mario Kart, and I've heard there is a new one for the Wii.

If it were just for me, I'd go with a 360, but the Elizabeth angle here might push me towards the Wii.

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It would help to know your reasons... You might be better off with an Xbox 360 or PS3 instead of Wii depending upon your desires (and this is assuming you don't want to be a two or three console household, or mix a handheld in there!)...



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