Xbox 360 and the End of HD DVD

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I was wondering how current Xbox 360 owners feel about Toshiba's surrender to Blu-Ray in the next-gen DVD standards war. I see that the price of the HD DVD player for the 360 has been slashed, and will not doubt soon be appearing in bargain bins. Do you think this will give the decisive edge to the PS3 in the high-end gamer market?

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Bill Loguidice
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Means nothing, really...

The HD-DVD add-on for the 360 was just that, an optional add on for playing HD-DVD movies only. It meant nothing for games. To this point, having the extra capacity of Blu-Ray over the 360's DVD disc has been nominal at best. Certainly a few games will take advantage of the extra space, but to this point and for the forseeable future, it will have little impact on games. So no, unless the general public wakes up to hi-def movies - and Blu-Ray is the only option - it will mean little in a boost for sales to the PS3. And Microsoft has always left the option open for a Blu-Ray add-on for the 360.

As an owner of both a PS3 and an HD-DVD 360 add-on, I can honestly say I didn't care who won, as long as someone won. It's about time we got a standard for HD movies on disc. Now we do. Hopefully that also means some good close-out deals on HD-DVD movies. I still haven't gotten my five free HD-DVD films yet either...



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I was never interested

I'm no X360-owner (for various reasons) but *if* I had one I wouldn't buy the add-on
at all. It always seemed like wasted money to me.

Microsoft said right from the start that there'll be no games that support it -- meaning
it really is only a movie player. But running a console plus some add-on drive only to
watch a movie is overkill for me - not only because of the power requirement but also
the noise level and the necessity to always have it connected (my DVD player is more
that eight years old - the X360 won't last that long meaning I would have to buy
another player at some time).

What I want is a device that seamlessly integrates into my rack like my current DVD
player, is as quiet as possible, uses a low amount of power, is easy to operate and
has all important features like 1024/24p.
So, of course, I would never buy a PS3 to play Blu-ray movie discs. Games on Blu-ray
are a different thing and can be a big advantage if the space on DVDs gets really tight.

And the more interesting question for me is: What marketing slogans will Microsoft
use to sell its next console with a Blu-ray drive... ;-)

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Mark Vergeer
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DVD-HD on x360 never was for games - only movies

The Xbox 360 HD-DVD expansion drive never was meant for games - only movies can be played with it. I will not be surprised of Microsoft comes up with a similar Blue-Ray device meant for Blue-Ray movies. ;-P If that is as cheap as the DVD-HD expansion drive it will be a good bargain as an add on/bonus for your existing console. But of course the 360 is far too noisy to be any true contender to a BlueRay player.
As true first generation BlueRay Players can suffer from compatibility problems and the price of most current players - the easily updated/very compatible PS3 is a good option for anyone looking for a solid BlueRay player. Like Bill I am glad the 'fight' seems to be over - despite the fact that perhaps a slightly inferior product wins.



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Bill Loguidice
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More 360 and Blu Ray rumors

Nothing new here: http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/006502.html . We'll start to hear more on this over the next few months.



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Matt Barton
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Microsoft on the HD DVD

Statement from Microsoft about HD-DVD.

While we're on this topic, I might remind you of this earliest post that might explain why Microsoft seemed half-hearted in its support of HD DVD.

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I agree that downloadable

I agree that downloadable movies are the future, but this future ain't here right now ;-)
At the moment the companies still make a shitload of money with selling disks and this
will continue for quite some time.

If the content is being streamed it's no problem for the majority of people I guess
(lots of people still use modems in Germany - they are out) but some movie portals
seem to offer the movies as complete downloads (of course with DRM so you are
severely limited as what you can do with it). Download times with a fast connection
are much too long for casual viewing, too.

Even if the harddisks are large enough the movies are reduced in picture quality and
there is no bonus material like extra audio tracks, commentaries, featurettes etc.
In fact it isn't better than a TV broadcast (minus the advertising) making the people
that won't spend money for buying a disk wonder, why they should get a downloadable
film in the first place.

With time this will change and we'll get downloads with 10 megabyte a second and
equally fast servers making the process quicker and/or the quality better.

Another solution could be a better compression method and selling disks will be a
problem when the downloads are reduced to one tenth with acceptable losses
(nearly none) in quality.

So maybe the next generation of disks will be no disks at all.

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Mark Vergeer
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Well it is now offical - the END of XBOX 360 - HD

Microsoft has issued an official statement regarding the matter:
"As a result of recent decisions made by Toshiba, Hollywood studios, and retailers, Microsoft plans to withdraw from HD DVD. Xbox will no longer manufacture new HD DVD players for the Xbox 360, but we will continue to provide standard product and warranty support for all Xbox 360 HD DVD Players in the market. As we stated earlier, we do not believe this decision will have any material impact on the Xbox 360 platform or our position in the marketplace. HD DVD is one of the several ways we offer a high definition experience to consumers and we will continue to give consumers the choice to enjoy digital distribution of high definition movies and TV shows directly to their living room, along with playback of the DVD movies they already own."



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