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Matt Barton
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I'm currently missing some games and screenshots that I'd very much like to have in my CRPG book. If you are able and willing to capture some for me, I'll gladly credit you with the pics in the text. If you want to do this, just put them in a response here using the built-in pic tool to avoid duplication. Just make sure they're decent quality.

I need a screenshot from the following games. * means urgent. THANKS for your help!!!

Darkstone
Revenant
Clans
Shadows over Riva
Return to Krondor
Knights of the Old Republic 2

Online games:
* Phantasy Star Online
Asheron's Call
* Dungeons & Dragons Online

UPDATE: I removed all the games that had screenshots on wikipedia.

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average sales
Bill Loguidice wrote:

No estimate from the publisher? Probably around 5,000 copies, though with luck and the right promotion on certain Websites, you could possibly double that. That's my uneducated guess. I would have guessed about 10k with No Starch for the other book, just because of their big distribution network through O'Reilly.

Actually, no. I'm not sure what they're projecting internally, either. I've been trying to do some math of my own. Maybe if 1/3 of the people who visited the articles buy the book, that'll still be a pretty good number. But maybe the ratio will actually be higher?

There are some figures here. Looks like the figures vary tremendously. I think 5,000 must be about right though for the average.

I guess the key question is how many people care enough about RPGs to actually buy a book on the subject. I have stuff in there about JRPGs and MMORPGs as well to extend the audience.

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Tough call on these books - it's almost like narrowcasting
Matt Barton wrote:

I'm just REALLY curious how many copies this thing will sell.

No estimate from the publisher? Probably around 5,000 copies, though with luck and the right promotion on certain Websites, you could possibly double that. That's my uneducated guess. I would have guessed about 10k with No Starch for the other book, just because of their big distribution network through O'Reilly.

I'm definitely down for one and regardless of how many it sells, it's another cap feather and major accomplishment. Congrats on being first!

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book is "done"

Well, I just finished the draft and am now gmailing it to the publisher. I know the copy editor will probably find tons of little mistakes, but I'm hoping to God that the bulk of it will pass muster. It's by FAR been the toughest project I've ever undertaken.

I'm just REALLY curious how many copies this thing will sell.

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well, I would but I dont own

well, I would but I dont own or play any of those games. :) But if you had asked for a picture of Norris the Gray in his catacomb hideout, I could oblige.

Hope you get all you need. I cant wait to read this book!

-- Stu --

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Agreed

I agree. Besides, I guess no one is interested in this (though I did get one via email that I really appreciate). I mainly thought of this as a fun way for some of our readers to see their name in print and be part of the project, but I can always go the official screenshot/wikipedia route.

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Great, Matt. That's good to know. Indeed, I'd be stunned if a publisher claimed ownership of a screenshot. As you say, it's not like it's being pulled from someone's hard work, it's being pulled from a company's promotional materials for a newsworthy use. Company's wouldn't supply screenshots on their Website if they didn't want the word spread so to speak...

The only reason why I was somewhat insistent is that I didn't want you to wait around for people to try to get you screenshots, as on modern games and systems it can be something of a challenge as you know all too well. Good luck!

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Bill Loguidice wrote:

Again, I'm obviously not a lawyer here, but you're reporting on the games, so I would think screenshots, which in theory anyone can generate anyway, would be fair use, particularly when they're from the publisher themselves to advertise the games

Here's what I got from the pub:

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In general, screenshots are OK to use. I think it would still be good to seek permission from the company (which serves a dual purpose of promoting the game to them), but it should be covered under fair use. However, seeking permission shouldn't hold up the manuscript, as that is something you can do after you've sent me the manuscript and while copyediting is happening. If it turns out we have to swap out an image here and there later in the process, that's ok.

I just know I'd be mad if someone took my many screenshots for AA and put them in a commercial book without asking me. It can be a lot of work making the shots. But you're right, as long as it's "official" stuff, I don't see a problem.

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Fair use
Matt Barton wrote:

Well, I'd appreciate anyone's help with this. I've been trying to use Wikipedia images when i can find them, but I will probably have to get permission to use anything else. THat'll take extra time I just don't have. I'm not sure if it'll be legit for me to take images even from publisher websites without their permission.

Again, I'm obviously not a lawyer here, but you're reporting on the games, so I would think screenshots, which in theory anyone can generate anyway, would be fair use, particularly when they're from the publisher themselves to advertise the games.

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Well, I'd appreciate anyone's help with this. I've been trying to use Wikipedia images when i can find them, but I will probably have to get permission to use anything else. THat'll take extra time I just don't have. I'm not sure if it'll be legit for me to take images even from publisher websites without their permission.

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Bill Loguidice
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Screenshots

Most of those are newer ones that you can get from the official sites. Some of those sites even offer images specifically for use by the press, but I believe just crediting "Courtesy of xxx" should be sufficient. For an end user to capture many of those images, they'd have to do it through a video capture/snapshot device like I've been using for the Wizard's Crown entry.

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