I think we actually agree on all points, Seb, so I'm thinking I just wasn't clear. I'm not saying that people should do this just as a hobby. I'm saying that there is a small market for it compared to the big stuff, but I'm sure there are enough people interested in these games to pay people. Do people working on the latest Halo game necessarily make more money (higher salaries) than the programmers working at smaller outfits? My guess is that it probably doesn't make that much of a difference to them pay wise; there just wouldn't be so many programmers so the game would take longer or be smaller in scale.